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OpenAI weighs "nuclear option" of antitrust complaint against Microsoft

50 points by amendegree 1y ago

freejazz 1y ago
Could OpenAI be more two-faced? Even if M$ is violating anti-trust, why would be solution be to free OpenAI from the contract it willingly executed?
- aussiedude 1y ago
  It didn't expect to be the most well known ai company. Insiders are pissed they don’t have billions of stock like other big tech founders.
  - freejazz 1y ago
    And that's why they should not be held to a contract?
mmaunder 1y ago
When you're going nuclear on an investor who owns 49% of your company, you're in trouble.
KaiserPro 1y ago
Good luck trying to argue that azure is the dominant cloud platform. Even better luck arguing that you partnered with them in good faith.
ChrisArchitect 1y ago
[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44292989 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44292989
SimianSci 1y ago
More OpenAI news and yet more reason to think the executive team is desperate to cash out before their chickens come home to roost. No matter what you might think of OpenAI's contributions to the AI industry, the investment dollars have clearly out-paced the tangible value and with no path to profitability available to them, I cant help but think that the executive team is looking to secure their share of investor dollars before the investors start to lose their money.
- hu3 1y ago
  Their only moat is first-movers advantage. ChatGPT is a popular brand. But if Google managed to overcome Internet Explorer and Firefox at their peak, I'm sure ChatGPT is just another Tuesday for their marketing team. And OpenAI knows that. I see an infinite spam of OpenAI paid ads in Reddit. They are desperate. Android phones now come with Gemini. It's hard to compete against this planet scale, free, ad-machine that is Android.
  - returnInfinity 1y ago
    Chrome had the goodwill And also Chrome would piggyback on Flash Player installer
  - echelon 1y ago
    > Android phones now come with Gemini. This is where the antitrust needs to be employed. Not against Microsoft. Google has everyone ensnared. Search, Chrome, Android, YouTube. They own the panes of glass and all of the ingress and egress points. Why isn't Google being dismantled by the DOJ / FTC as we speak?
    - owebmaster 1y ago
      > Why isn't Google being dismantled by the DOJ / FTC as we speak? Because Google monopolizes the world. Dismantling it would be bad for the US.
mvdtnz 1y ago
So OpenAI wants to fundamentally change the nature of their agreement with Microsoft. Microsoft says "well no, we have an agreement in black and white and if you want to change it you'll need to do it in terms favourable to us". OpenAI responds by throwing their toys out of the cot and trying to leverage the courts against MS with a bogus lawsuit. Let's see how that works out for them.

50 points by amendegree 1y ago

Could OpenAI be more two-faced? Even if M$ is violating anti-trust, why would be solution be to free OpenAI from the contract it willingly executed?

aussiedude 1y ago
It didn't expect to be the most well known ai company. Insiders are pissed they don’t have billions of stock like other big tech founders.
- freejazz 1y ago
  And that's why they should not be held to a contract?

mmaunder 1y ago

When you're going nuclear on an investor who owns 49% of your company, you're in trouble.

KaiserPro 1y ago

Good luck trying to argue that azure is the dominant cloud platform. Even better luck arguing that you partnered with them in good faith.

ChrisArchitect 1y ago

[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44292989 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44292989

SimianSci 1y ago

More OpenAI news and yet more reason to think the executive team is desperate to cash out before their chickens come home to roost. No matter what you might think of OpenAI's contributions to the AI industry, the investment dollars have clearly out-paced the tangible value and with no path to profitability available to them, I cant help but think that the executive team is looking to secure their share of investor dollars before the investors start to lose their money.

hu3 1y ago
Their only moat is first-movers advantage. ChatGPT is a popular brand. But if Google managed to overcome Internet Explorer and Firefox at their peak, I'm sure ChatGPT is just another Tuesday for their marketing team. And OpenAI knows that. I see an infinite spam of OpenAI paid ads in Reddit. They are desperate. Android phones now come with Gemini. It's hard to compete against this planet scale, free, ad-machine that is Android.
- returnInfinity 1y ago
  Chrome had the goodwill And also Chrome would piggyback on Flash Player installer
- echelon 1y ago
  > Android phones now come with Gemini. This is where the antitrust needs to be employed. Not against Microsoft. Google has everyone ensnared. Search, Chrome, Android, YouTube. They own the panes of glass and all of the ingress and egress points. Why isn't Google being dismantled by the DOJ / FTC as we speak?
  - owebmaster 1y ago
    > Why isn't Google being dismantled by the DOJ / FTC as we speak? Because Google monopolizes the world. Dismantling it would be bad for the US.

mvdtnz 1y ago

So OpenAI wants to fundamentally change the nature of their agreement with Microsoft. Microsoft says "well no, we have an agreement in black and white and if you want to change it you'll need to do it in terms favourable to us". OpenAI responds by throwing their toys out of the cot and trying to leverage the courts against MS with a bogus lawsuit. Let's see how that works out for them.