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Because it's HN not /r/politics A lot of us doesn't come here to read about US internal politics

sillyfluke 1y ago
>Because it's HN not /r/politics Poltical stories that show "evidence of some interesting new phenomenon" are not against the guidelines. A few years back someone said nearly half the YC batch was non-US. I think stories about city comptrollers and mayoral candidates getting arrested at immigration court would have some bearing on whether someone would want to base a company in the US. A user who has enough karma to flag stories has flagged it for whatever reason, maybe they think the story is flamebait or without merit, who knows. It is not possible for a user with equal or higher karma to unflag it I believe. Only a moderator can unflag it, and if you want them to do that you have to email them (address in guidelines, no guarentee of success).
- timr 1y ago
  > Poltical stories that show "evidence of some interesting new phenomenon" are not against the guidelines. Call me evil and obtuse, but this is neither interesting, nor new. The only thing new here is that (it seems) a huge swath of people are learning how the law works for the first time. Brad Lander had nothing to do with the situation. He's a politician, and he was there "observing". It's the equivalent if I walked down to the Manhattan courthouse, ran up to the first defendant in shackles I saw in the hallway, and started interfering with their movement. I'd be arrested. The fact that you, as a random bystander, aren't shown ID and briefed on the situation isn't relevant. If you aren't involved, you aren't involved.
  - Tadpole9181 1y ago
    The ununiformed, masked men that refuse to identify themselves and won't show any legal documents have unilateral authority and cannot be questioned. Do not resist. You will not receive a trial. You will be sent to a black site. Your family or lawyer will not be informed. America: home of the free.
    - timr 1y ago
      > The ununiformed, masked men that refuse to identify themselves and won't show any legal documents have unilateral authority and cannot be questioned. Do not resist. Again, Brad Lander was not being detained. He had nothing to do with anything. That's not "resistance", it's just interference.
      - Tadpole9181 1y ago
        Brad Lander saw unidentified, masked, ununiformed men who refused to speak, had no legal documentation, and would not identify themselves to anyone carrying a man against his will. I hope it's not against the rules to swear, but this cannot be stated clearly enough: That's called a fucking kidnapping. Did you not hear that someone pretending to be LEO attempted (and succeed in one case) the political assassination of two legislators and their spouses this weekend? More than ever, every single LEO should be under scrutiny for identification! He has every right to prevent a man from being disappeared by God knows who! You may be a boot-stepping authoritarian who fully condones a US gestapo who can disappear anyone without question. The rest of us have higher standards and common sense.
        timr 1y ago
        > Brad Lantern saw unidentified, masked, ununiformed men who refused to speak, had no legal documentation, and would not identify themselves to anyone carrying a man against his will. Brad Lander was at the man's trial for illegal immigration, which was in a federal court building. So, you know...context matters. Also you can clearly see uniforms in the video [1], but I digress. There is exactly zero chance that Lander was under the illusion that this hypothetical, rogue, pirate kidnapping operation smuggled themselves into a federal immigration court, Boondock Saints-style, in order to abduct the one guy Lander happened to be watching in the immigration trial just moments before. [1] https://www.amny.com/news/brad-lander-arrested-ice-court-hearing-06172025/ https://www.amny.com/news/brad-lander-arrested-ice-court-hea...
        RandomBacon 1y ago
        > I hope it's not against the rules to swear Perhaps then, you should go ahead and read the rules? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
pacomerh 1y ago
You won't have a hackernews anymore if the country goes to shit though and we don't do anything about it, so it does matter. If you don't do politics, politics will do you.
Avshalom 1y ago
US internal politics are also US external politics and all of this shit has been cheerled by the biggest names in Silicon Valley. Hey remember when Peter Theil said we should get rid of democracy and Paul Graham said "we aren't going to like, stop giving money to people because of their opinions"? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Remember when the A in A16Z ran the futurist manifesto through a thesaurus? Remember when Musk spent a quarter billion dollars to ensure this exact outcome?
- know-how 1y ago
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cosmicgadget 1y ago
You can always downvote or skip the article. Flagging it makes the decision for everyone else.
- lmm 1y ago
  > You can always downvote You literally can't. There's no downvote button for articles.
  - cosmicgadget 1y ago
    Touche, just skip then.
someothherguyy 1y ago
> A lot of us doesn't come here to read about US internal politics I see this a lot, and I think, "then why are you posting comments in a thread for a article discussing US internal politics?"
- SantalBlush 1y ago
  Because they have an opinion on it, but want to appear even-handed.
- chrisdhoover 1y ago
  What other forum is there to voice your disapproval?
  - tstrimple 1y ago
    Ignore it and move on. Like 99.9% of the rest of the population when they encounter something online they "aren't interested" in.
JKCalhoun 1y ago
I don't come here for articles about Rust, but what can I do? I guess not click on the thread.... But seriously, I come to HN for the variety of topics (though often technical) that so often surprise me.
insane_dreamer 1y ago
There's tons of stuff on HN that I don't come here to read

>Because it's HN not /r/politics Poltical stories that show "evidence of some interesting new phenomenon" are not against the guidelines. A few years back someone said nearly half the YC batch was non-US. I think stories about city comptrollers and mayoral candidates getting arrested at immigration court would have some bearing on whether someone would want to base a company in the US. A user who has enough karma to flag stories has flagged it for whatever reason, maybe they think the story is flamebait or without merit, who knows. It is not possible for a user with equal or higher karma to unflag it I believe. Only a moderator can unflag it, and if you want them to do that you have to email them (address in guidelines, no guarentee of success).

timr 1y ago
> Poltical stories that show "evidence of some interesting new phenomenon" are not against the guidelines. Call me evil and obtuse, but this is neither interesting, nor new. The only thing new here is that (it seems) a huge swath of people are learning how the law works for the first time. Brad Lander had nothing to do with the situation. He's a politician, and he was there "observing". It's the equivalent if I walked down to the Manhattan courthouse, ran up to the first defendant in shackles I saw in the hallway, and started interfering with their movement. I'd be arrested. The fact that you, as a random bystander, aren't shown ID and briefed on the situation isn't relevant. If you aren't involved, you aren't involved.
- Tadpole9181 1y ago
  The ununiformed, masked men that refuse to identify themselves and won't show any legal documents have unilateral authority and cannot be questioned. Do not resist. You will not receive a trial. You will be sent to a black site. Your family or lawyer will not be informed. America: home of the free.
  - timr 1y ago
    > The ununiformed, masked men that refuse to identify themselves and won't show any legal documents have unilateral authority and cannot be questioned. Do not resist. Again, Brad Lander was not being detained. He had nothing to do with anything. That's not "resistance", it's just interference.
    - Tadpole9181 1y ago
      Brad Lander saw unidentified, masked, ununiformed men who refused to speak, had no legal documentation, and would not identify themselves to anyone carrying a man against his will. I hope it's not against the rules to swear, but this cannot be stated clearly enough: That's called a fucking kidnapping. Did you not hear that someone pretending to be LEO attempted (and succeed in one case) the political assassination of two legislators and their spouses this weekend? More than ever, every single LEO should be under scrutiny for identification! He has every right to prevent a man from being disappeared by God knows who! You may be a boot-stepping authoritarian who fully condones a US gestapo who can disappear anyone without question. The rest of us have higher standards and common sense.
      - timr 1y ago
        > Brad Lantern saw unidentified, masked, ununiformed men who refused to speak, had no legal documentation, and would not identify themselves to anyone carrying a man against his will. Brad Lander was at the man's trial for illegal immigration, which was in a federal court building. So, you know...context matters. Also you can clearly see uniforms in the video [1], but I digress. There is exactly zero chance that Lander was under the illusion that this hypothetical, rogue, pirate kidnapping operation smuggled themselves into a federal immigration court, Boondock Saints-style, in order to abduct the one guy Lander happened to be watching in the immigration trial just moments before. [1] https://www.amny.com/news/brad-lander-arrested-ice-court-hearing-06172025/ https://www.amny.com/news/brad-lander-arrested-ice-court-hea...
      - RandomBacon 1y ago
        > I hope it's not against the rules to swear Perhaps then, you should go ahead and read the rules? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

pacomerh 1y ago

You won't have a hackernews anymore if the country goes to shit though and we don't do anything about it, so it does matter. If you don't do politics, politics will do you.

Avshalom 1y ago

US internal politics are also US external politics and all of this shit has been cheerled by the biggest names in Silicon Valley. Hey remember when Peter Theil said we should get rid of democracy and Paul Graham said "we aren't going to like, stop giving money to people because of their opinions"? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Remember when the A in A16Z ran the futurist manifesto through a thesaurus? Remember when Musk spent a quarter billion dollars to ensure this exact outcome?

know-how 1y ago
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cosmicgadget 1y ago

You can always downvote or skip the article. Flagging it makes the decision for everyone else.

lmm 1y ago
> You can always downvote You literally can't. There's no downvote button for articles.
- cosmicgadget 1y ago
  Touche, just skip then.

someothherguyy 1y ago

> A lot of us doesn't come here to read about US internal politics I see this a lot, and I think, "then why are you posting comments in a thread for a article discussing US internal politics?"

SantalBlush 1y ago
Because they have an opinion on it, but want to appear even-handed.
chrisdhoover 1y ago
What other forum is there to voice your disapproval?
- tstrimple 1y ago
  Ignore it and move on. Like 99.9% of the rest of the population when they encounter something online they "aren't interested" in.

JKCalhoun 1y ago

I don't come here for articles about Rust, but what can I do? I guess not click on the thread.... But seriously, I come to HN for the variety of topics (though often technical) that so often surprise me.

insane_dreamer 1y ago

There's tons of stuff on HN that I don't come here to read