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Evernote Smart Notebook by Moleskine
- azar1 14y agoNot that interested in the Moleskine, but the smart stickers are an amazing idea. A great mesh of the real world and digital.
- michaelbuckbee 14y agoI agree, I wish they just sold them separately so you tag random objects in the world.
- rjv 14y agoFor the hipster in your life...
- tnorthcutt 14y agoPlease don't post comments that don't add to the conversation.
- king_magic 14y agoI think this is really quite neat. I used to be a heavy user of Evernote, but I found it difficult to reconcile my handwritten notes (90% of my notes at work) with what I'd have in Evernote. As a result, I stopped using Evernote. I always hoped I'd be able to find a good way to record my notes digitally (e.g., iPad + stylus), but at the end of the day, taking notes with pen & paper always wins for me. This could very well bring me back to Evernote. Not sure if it's worth $24+, but if it works, maybe... I do take an awful lot of handwritten notes, and I'd love to digitize them easily.
- lanstein 14y agoJust bought, order #263. Pretty brisk sales considering it's a pre-order.
- daeken 14y ago#375 here, less than half an hour later.
- shawndumas 14y ago503
- FootballMuse 14y ago601
- felixandersen 14y ago#654
- Jun8 14y agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_tank_problem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_tank_problem
- kanwisher 14y ago#175739 got mine from moleskin, evernote's store really sucks, couldn't purchase it there ;/ Why they felt the need to setup a crappy store instead of just letting other retailers sell it is beyond me.
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- jseliger 14y agoNow I wish Devonthink Pro had a feature like this. I've been using paper notebooks for years—this: https://jseliger.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/design-y-notebook-review-the-record-216/ https://jseliger.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/design-y-notebook-... discusses a recent example—and like you I find the reconciliation process difficult too. But at the same time, I find that I'm in a different "state" when I write on paper, and that's not a state I'm willing to give up without a good replacement.
- larsberg 14y agoI don't know how it is today, but OneNote on tablet pc was doing pretty fantastic search of handwritten notes in ~2004 (back when I last used it). When I worked at MSFT, I took basically all of my notes in it.
- hcurtiss 14y agoI've used a tablet PC for years. OneNote is truly powerful software. I pray for a convertible ultrabook. Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one. So much hate for the lowly tablet PC.
- icegreentea 14y agoAsus has a convertible ultrabook coming out sometime [1]. Too bad it looks like its just capacitive touch, no digitizer =/. Wish Lenovo would find a way to thin out their X200T's. [1] http://www.anandtech.com/show/5897/new-asus-transformer-book-ultrabook-meets-tablet http://www.anandtech.com/show/5897/new-asus-transformer-book...
- jimbobimbo 14y agoWith OneNote in mind and being a Tablet PC user myself, I'm really baffled by the decision to make handwriting available only on x86 Surface version. There's really nothing that would've prevented ARM version of Surface to become a killer OneNote host...
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- svdad 14y agoSeconded -- OneNote was/is an amazing piece of software. I took all my notes for the CFA on it in 2008, and I used it to great effect apartment hunting off craigslist that year as well. My tablet died a couple of years ago and I haven't replaced it, or I'd probably still be using OneNote.
- dddrh 14y agoIt's worth it to me (#623). I use Evernote pretty heavily, but there are times where paper wins out (i.e. dead batteries and meetings where being on a phone/tablet could be frowned upon). What I also enjoy about this idea is that it is like a physical version of Paper By 53. Although now instead of emailing Evernote my sketches via paper I can now snap a picture from Evernote itself. Seems like an interesting product tie-in that has me wanting it more than I want money.
- naner 14y agoWhat's your opinion of Livescribe? I'm also a paper note taker but I don't see myself moving to Livescribe (though I haven't tried it) or taking photos of pages in Evernote. I'm pretty organized, though, so I'm not dying to have everything digitized.
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- milesskorpen 14y agoI found the huge pen rather clunky, and the spiral bound notebooks really frustrating. Their software is also rather pitiful compared to Evernote.
- tylerritchie 14y agoThere's a livescribe->evernote bridge, though, isn't there?
- chimeracoder 14y agoYes, there is, last I recall.
- deepGem 14y agoI used livescribe back in 2009 or so. Hated the big pen. Till date nothing compares to taking notes on a normal paper and a pen/pencil. Even the S-note on the galaxy note/tab is a far cry.
- hexagonc 14y agoI bought a Livescribe Echo smartpen two years ago and only used it one or two times, including going through the tutorials. It is definitely a very neat technology demo, but my interest was as a developer. I wanted to be able to use the pens as an input device for applications on my Android phone. Unfortunately, this was pretty much impossible with the Echo pen because there is no built-in bluetooth so I gradually lost interest. It was a terrible lost opportunity for Livescribe since I can only imagine the applications one could build with Livescribe and an smartphone; they just seem to go well together.
- marquis 14y agoSince they are doing recognition of stickers, isn't it also possible for you to invent your own 'tag' and train Evernote to recognise it? Then they could charge for the app and you won't be stuck with recurring sticker purchases.
- AJ007 14y agoOr just "pirate" them yourself with some colored sticker paper.
- alexholehouse 14y agoI don't know why you should need stickers at all - just have some unique symbol you can draw, train evernote on the symbol and get rid of the stickers all together. It can't be that hard to do if you train it on your own symbol, as opposed to trying to learn to copy one or whatever.
- marquis 14y ago>just have some unique symbol you can draw Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking. And if you draw the same thing every day you get pretty good at keeping it consistent.
- colinloretz 14y agoI got one of the pre-release notebooks at the Evernote Conference yesterday. You can reset what tags the stickers correspond with in the desktop and mobile apps.
- charlieok 14y agoI'm still hoping for a good stylus solution for tablets. Fingers are a great primary input device but when I'm taking notes, or some other writing/drawing activity, something that works like a pen is much preferred. I bought a stylus marketed specifically for the ipad and it sucked. The tip was this big soft spongy foam thing. It was nowhere close to the immediate, reliable experience of putting pen to paper. I was left assuming that the current capacitive technology in these devices is just not up to the task of making pen input work well. Maybe it can be done easily, but it just wasn't high enough on the priority queue. Maybe Microsoft will do this well with Surface, since it would differentiate them and after all, they were doing tablets with pen input over a decade ago. Whatever the holdup, I'm still looking forward to tablets that are as easy to write on as pen and paper.
- jaaron 14y agoIt's expensive, but consider the Jot Touch stylus: http://adonit.net/product/jot-touch/ http://adonit.net/product/jot-touch/
- nicw 14y agoNow that Evernote has acquired PenUltimate (handwriting app), I think you'll see some really good integration on the iPad where you can use the stylus to write your notes, and it will end up in Evernote automatically. http://discussion.evernote.com/topic/25868-news-penultimate-acquisition/ http://discussion.evernote.com/topic/25868-news-penultimate-...
- orjan 14y ago"we designed a special dotted paper pattern" - this sounds very much like what Anoto[1] does. [1] http://www.anoto.com/the-technology-1.aspx http://www.anoto.com/the-technology-1.aspx
- orjan 14y agoThat said, nice to see they've eliminated the need for a special pen.
- giftedmunchkin 14y agoLivescribe[1] is another example of a smartpen with dotted paper. [1] http://www.livescribe.com/en-us/smartpen/dotpaper.html http://www.livescribe.com/en-us/smartpen/dotpaper.html
- michaelleland 14y agoExcept it seems that the dot pattern for Evernote would have to be much larger. I'm a heavy user of Livescribe pens, which are built on Anoto's paper, but the dots are so small that it takes a very close look to even see them. In this case, the dots have to be large enough to be seen by the application when using a cell phone camera.
- AhtiK 14y agoWacom went the opposite way for obvious reasons - digital pen that works with any paper. Wacom Inkling, http://www.wacom.com/en/Products/Inkling http://www.wacom.com/en/Products/Inkling
- Groxx 14y agoneat idea, but this kills it for me: >How accurate are the sketches? In general, sketches with Inkling will be accurate to within approximately +/- 0.1 inches (+/- 2.5 mm) in the main drawing area of an A4 page, and within (approximately +/- 0.2 inches (+/- 5.0 mm) at the edges of the page. 2.5mm is quite a large fuzz factor. Enough to make me think this could be great for very-rough sketching / outlining of a design, but not enough for replacing scanning / doing (essentially) OCR.
- islon 14y agoVery neat. The only concern I have is to remember take a photo of all the pages and which page I already took a photo.
- izak30 14y agoCut/Tear the corner off once a photo has been taken of both sides. I do that already to determine quickly the next available page.
- niels_olson 14y agoThat answer and its question have got to be the most value-added comments in this thread.
- shawndumas 14y agostickers man, stickers...
- shawnjan8 14y agoInteresting. And the new app seems great. No more different modes for reading and editing! Hopefully they release an update for Android as well...
- mumrah 14y agoStickers are a neat idea, but why not just some special drawn symbol? Would be way cool if you could define your own.
- sbanach 14y agoUh, because with a drawn symbol you wouldn't need their thirty dollar notebooks?
- icebraining 14y agoYou'd still need the pages with the "special dotted paper pattern".
- JabavuAdams 14y agoNo, stickers could serve that function. Google "registration marks"
- tedunangst 14y agoDoes evernote not allow you to fix the page manually? (I don't use it.) The JotNot Pro app I bought for a dollar allows one to slide the corners around and reskews the image as appropriate, with some amount of auto detection as well.
- perishabledave 14y agoNot that it's impossible, but it would be significantly more difficult to make the digital signal processing algorithms to detect custom symbols, especially hand drawn custom symbols.
- k-mcgrady 14y agoThis is great. I love Evernote and use it daily but I also prefer writing some things in notebooks (and I use Moleskine ones). I could definitely see myself using it. It depend on how the $ price works out in GBP compared to regular Moleskine notebooks which are about £9.
- bradgessler 14y agoSo far, my experience with Evernote has been watching them make Skitch almost unusable. The app always forgets my Skitch credentials, keeps displaying the startup screen even when I check "Do not show this to me again", and tries to force me into an Evernote account. At one point they changed Skitch to display 10 different things I could do after an upload. They made it a real mess. I assume Evernote's products are overly complicated, but I'd like to know if they just botched the Skitch acquisition. Does anybody have any insight into this?
- shpoonj 14y agoThey're a tech company trying to sell you a notebook with stickers for $30 in an age where paper offers no advantage and, quite frankly, unacceptable due to the environmental ramifications. Their products aren't overly complicated; they're utterly senseless.
- juddlyon 14y agoEvernote is a fantastic app and not hard to use or overly complicated. I agree with you on the Skitch integration, the startup screen has driven me bonkers. My guess is that they'll sort it out, the last release seemed a little better.
- tcc2161 14y agoThis should be ideal for someone like me, but unfortunately I can't see myself using it. I have a shelf full of Moleskins (began buying them in 2005) and I was a premium Evernote user from 2009-2011. But I canceled my Evernote subscription because I never used the software - I really dislike their UI. The only thing that could bring me back to them is a UI redesign, to make it seem less like an email application and more like a file-sorting system, which is what it's supposed to be. And the idea of taking pics of my notebook pages with my phone is too clunky. However, I'll grant that this is why this doesn't work * for me * and express envy for those for whom it does work for, since "on paper" all of this seems like a great idea. Having notebook pages scanned and sortable would be wonderful.
- yock 14y agoYes, but how far is this from just using standard/college/quad ruled paper in the first place? Requiring special paper automatically limits the feature's utility. Once their "limited edition" notebooks sell out this feature immediately begins the countdown to uselessness.
- jasonlotito 14y ago> Yes, but how far is this from just using standard/college/quad ruled paper in the first place? Not far. Most of the features, it seems, do not really require the notebook. But it also seems that it wouldn't be difficult to eventually add support for any old notebook to allow for automatic alignment. So when you say.... > Requiring special paper automatically limits the feature's utility. ...I can't help but think it allows them to get the feature out sooner before refining it. > Once their "limited edition" notebooks sell out they'll be offering normal edition notebooks, as well as providing better support for other notebooks. I really don't see the features here as something they are just going to limit to a limited time physical product.
- Keyframe 14y agoOnly a fool would buy $25+ notebook. I'd rather play lottery.
- shawndumas 14y agoquality is fractal; good, smooth acid-free paper that can take a wide variety of inks without smearing, discoloring, or bleeding through -- well constructed and durable. quality is worth paying for...
- Too 14y ago> smooth acid-free paper that can take a wide variety of inks without smearing, discoloring, or bleeding through -- well constructed and durable You mean just like a standard 1€ spiral bound notebook with 80g paper?
- shawndumas 14y agowhat kind of pen do you use?
- nvoorhies 14y agoMoleskine notebooks are mediocre in paper quality, though, and not very consistent. You'll see variations based on which of their Chinese suppliers manufactured a particular notebook, but bleed through and feathering are generally sub par for the price. They're nice and easy to find though, and the form factor's lovely.
- vtail 14y agoWhat would you recommend as a higher-quality notebooks?
- Keyframe 14y agoExcept moleskin are not quality. I bought one (was a fool once), it's not better or worse than normal 80g paper. I draw with pencil A LOT (as my username would suggest), and write a lot and take notes all the time - all on paper. Regular spiral bound notebook is all one needs for effective usage. Everything else is posing.
- reaganing 14y agoNot really a fan of Moleskine's notebooks, but this is interesting. But, Evernote's Page Camera feature that was added to the iOS app does seem to work just fine with other paper (I tested Field Notes w/ graph paper). It's just 'optimized' for the paper in these notebooks, whatever that means.
- TheOnlyRew 14y agoI love Moleskine, but that just made me all the more sceptical about the "optimized" dotted paper pattern. That just screams gimmick to me, especially looking at the picture provided. If it does make a significant usability difference, that would be pretty cool and I'd love to get some insight into why dotted lines would be simpler for image processing software to work with than straight lines, but... For now, I'm gonna keep on trying to bury myself with post-it notes...
- zem 14y agofor one, the paper has alignment dots that evernote uses to square the image perfectly even if the camera is held askew.
- rhplus 14y agoCan't a generalized line/grid detection algorithm be used to correct the skew from photos of any lined or squared note paper? $25/notepad is way of the charts for the types of notes and sketches that I actually need a notepad for.
- jahewson 14y agoYep. Edge detection + affine transform. No need for any fancy dots.
- WildUtah 14y agoUse a Hough transform on the edge detection to get the right lines (you only want the longest, straightest ones). Then apply the affine transform back. It gets harder if the notebook doesn't lie flat, though.
- stcredzero 14y agoThis is the world crying out for a fast e-ink small form-factor tablet that just saves everything as digital ink. (Then build-up from there.) Simply recording time (and optionally location) associated with each page would make the device awesome. Add the ability to interface with a web app for better processing, as Evernote does, and you'd take over the world.
- FuzzyDunlop 14y agoI saw the link, and thought that's what it would be. Just that it synced with Evernote instead of Amazon or whatever. Then I saw 'new iOS app' in the copy and my expectations disappeared. :(
- objectatrest 14y agoI have been looking for basically that. I stumbled across this http://www.improvelectronics.com/us/en/ http://www.improvelectronics.com/us/en/. Anyone have experience with it?
- iamben 14y agoGutted this isn't on Android. Why are so many people still launching apps/competitions/products for iOS only? I could understand it a few years back, but doing it today just cuts your market in half.
- pgmcgee 14y agoWhen you first release a product/feature, the people that are going to really use it are the "early adopter" crowd. Once they embrace it, then you can spend the capital to roll it out to the later adopters. I'd be willing to bet that Android has far fewer early adopters than iOS.
- chrisro 14y agoOne thing precludes the other, though. How can Android users be early adopters if apps are consistently released on iOS first?
- acdha 14y agoThere's also a major fragmentation problem with Android: Evernote can look at the iPhone 4 sales figures and know that they'll have so many million potential users with the same hardware and OS; with Android they have to compare a ton of different models to see which ones have a usable camera and whether the vendor + carrier are holding up OS releases. If you want to prove an idea that's a lot of extra work.
- ig1 14y agoBecause even though iOS has fewer users, those users are more valuable. They tend to fall into higher income brackets and be higher spenders.
- iamben 14y agoI don't doubt that :-) But I wonder how long this will be the case. Anecdotally I'm seeing more people choose Android (or at least Samsung Android phones) - with a bigger user base, how long before the subset of early adopters/higher spenders is as big or bigger than those with an iPhone?
- samstave 14y agoI'm addicted to moleskine notebooks - I have many, I'll certainly be getting this one as well!
- reubenswartz 14y agoAlmost enough to make me go back to Moleskine (love the notebooks, but not being able to easily digitize was a problem.)
- fsniper 14y agoHow is this different from taking notes on any physical paper and take a photo of it? My Galaxy SII camera takes real good pictures of papers. They are readable, good focused and sharp. I just see a marketing partnering stunt here?? Am I missing something?
- andrewcamel 14y agoThe feature I would really like to see would be a printed title Box in the moleskin notebook, which would allow me to title my written work and then pass that title into Evernote when it's scanned. You could obviously also extrapolate this feature out to tags or other pieces of metadata to be stored in the digital Evernote document. Just to clarify: this would really be made for those who have awful handwriting (like me), so only a small part of your page would need to be written carefully and eventually digitized to be searchable.
- marginalboy 14y agoGreat work, Evernote! That's pretty darn cool :-)
- darkmethod 14y agoI didn't even look through all the functionality before I made my purchase (#182). I use Evernote for nearly everything I do. Task lists, projects, ideas, goals. Evernote saves me one of my most precious resources: time. I've worked Evernote into my daily workflow for getting things done. And I have a stack of Moleskines I've used for reminders, sketches, random thoughts that I scratch down in a hurry throughout my day. This is the perfect product for my everyday use. Looking forward to when they arrive (they will ship in October). I just wonder if I bought enough of them.
- ckrailo 14y agoSigh. Looks like Big Commerce (the store Evernote is using) stores passwords in plain-text or at least a reversible hash. They emailed me my password. :\
- graeme 14y agoI've never gotten into Evernote, but have wanted to for a long time. I've bought these as a way of forcing myself to finally sit down and learn how to use it. Does anyone know of a good intro guide to Evernote?
- dholowiski 14y agoYes, it's even advertised in the Evernote desktop application. "Evernote for Dummies".
- dholowiski 14y agoSHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY. Oh wait, IOS Only? Never mind.
- cjoh 14y agoAs an author, it's depressing to see empty books -- stickers and all -- selling for twice as much as full ones.
- davidp 14y agoI sympathize; but on the other hand, many of us value our own thoughts very highly too.
- 3143 14y agoBlank CDs sell for more than AOL free trial discs.
- lightyrs 14y agoAn empty book, to me, is usually more valuable than a filled one. Once completed, most artwork is dead.
- niels_olson 14y agoI walked out of the library today and was treated by the free books stand. I got Crime and Punishment, The Crucible, The Old Man and the Sea, and 4 others of equal caliber. And when I got home, I was reminded I'm out of shelf space. In mymind, that's a great reason to get a bookshelf. To my wife, not so much. Dead tree books have negative value to a growing percentage of the population. BTW, for those buying, unless you're a reporter, I highly recommend the large size. If you look at the notebooks of great men, most tend to be closer to the larger size. Michelson is the one that sticks in my mind, since I walked past those notebooks every day for 7 years.
- arnarbi 14y agoIt's not very intuitive. However, a notebook stays with me for a couple of years, so I prefer it to be nice as well as durable. A novel lasts a few days usually.
- tripzilch 14y agoThis is my reasoning as well. If I'd treat a paperback novel the same way as I treat my notebooks, stuffing them in my bag, taking them everywhere, they'd fall apart after a week or two. I select a notebook for durability (among a few other things, like not having squares or lined paper but rather blank, and having a convenient form factor). However, while I do agree that Moleskine notebooks are absolutely gorgeous, I usually buy other types at about 1/3rd of the price. Their diary/planner, however, is merely on the high price end for such things, not by a factor of three. And in the years I've used one of those (I use a much tinier planner now), I kept on being pleasantly surprised by their attention to detail in the design of tables, grids and bubbles you'd find in a planner, all of it really well-thought-out. But then, a pre-printed planner is not the same as an empty notebook.
- enraged_camel 14y agoI don't mean to be a debbie downer, but I find the idea of taking pictures of moleskine pages really, really clunky. I have done that in the past to take photos of book/magazine pages, and in my experience the picture almost always comes out low quality - a combination of blur, contrast, the curvature of the page and flash reflecting off the paper makes it very difficult to read later. I can only imagine what types of problems these factors will cause for Evernote's hand-writing recognition program. After all, software can optimize image quality only so much.
- WildUtah 14y agoThe Moleskine is supposed to lie very flat and the paper isn't shiny. Those both improve the focus, too. The lines are supposed to help remove skew, too. It should be a lot better than a photo of a book, and much much better than a magazine.
- vtail 14y agoNow, for those of us interested in startups - what a perfect example of great product development: - Address existing need that few other products addresses - Helps generating new customers by removing some of the barriers - "I like to create my notes with a pen on a paper" - Involves non-trivial blend of hardware and software - Involves non-trivial business partnership - Serves as a test-bed for bringing the solution to more people by refining unskewing algorithms - etc. etc. Well executed, Evernote!
- FireBeyond 14y agoDo either Evernote or Moleskine really qualify as startups, though? (not that that necessarily changes things, though I'm not convinced that it's as revolutionary as being made out to be... certainly evolutionary).
- vtail 14y agoI don't think Evernote is a startup anymore, but it's a remarkable product development story nevertheless. Certainly thinking outside of the box.
- awayand 14y agoi hate evernote
- Neputys 14y agoBig -1 to Moleskine. Such a brand and partnering with some tech whatever.
- zimpenfish 14y agoBecause Moleskine haven't already debased their brand with gimmicky tie-ins? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Moleskine-Pac-Man-Limited-Edition-Notebook/dp/8862935609 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Moleskine-Pac-Man-Limited-Edition-No... http://www.amazon.co.uk/Moleskine-Limited-Brick-Plain-notebook/dp/8866130095 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Moleskine-Limited-Brick-Plain-notebo... etc.etc.
- sourc3 14y agoAs much as I wanted to use digital notes in meetings, I still take joy in using the beautifully designed moleskine notebooks with a Cross pen. However, indexing and search is always a problem. If Evernote can fix this for me I will be a lifetime paid user of Evernote! In my opinion this is a good glimpse of digital and analog life working in harmony instead of dictating you have to live with either one. Great job! Ordering mine now :)
- altxwally 14y agoThere are a couple of note books (CamiApp, Shotnote) that have appeared in Japan that are quite similar. I found the design pretty good, though I stopped using them.. I think mainly because I switched form Evernote to org-mode.
- BallinBige 14y agothe shills will eat this up
- jfb 14y agoI never "got" Evernote, but this is trés cool.
- kamaal 14y agoGreat, except that Moleskine notebooks are very costly here in India. Generally in ranges of hundreds of rupees. http://www.flipkart.com/search/a/all?query=Moleskine&vertical=all&dd=0&autosuggest[as]=off&autosuggest[as-submittype]=default-search&autosuggest[as-grouprank]=0&autosuggest[as-overallrank]=0&Search=%C2%A0&_r=n_2yuAC4xgh0SZTuulvAtw--&_l=Tnndui8JdMVk7CZmDKIfXQ--&ref=5c117020-8e31-4c52-af4a-5252943b6eec&selmitem= http://www.flipkart.com/search/a/all?query=Moleskine&ver...
- antihero 14y agoIs there any reason they can't do this with the Android app, too? Or does it already have this functionality?
- ajanuary 14y agoI don't know much about unskewing, but presumably the dotted lines mean you know how each dot should be placed relative to each other dot. With plain lines you'd have to do some guesswork based on how wavey the line is etc.
- Mordio 14y agoIt's awkward that I can't vote and therefore save stories anymore. So I have to comment even if I don't have anything useful to say. Can't be the goal of Hacker News, can it?
- prof_hobart 14y agoOr alternately, use your browser's bookmark functionality?
- Mordio 14y agoCorrect. I don't know why voting is disabled. The account seems to be ok because I can comment. So what's wrong? There is nothing in the FAQ about this and no apparent contact address. That is all.
- jpalomaki 14y agoI could see some use in combining the laptop and piece of paper in note taking. To make this easier I would like a system to help me reconcile the the notes made on different mediums. Probably I'm writing on laptop and would like to include stuff drawn on paper in between those notes. Few things that could make this easier: - Add machine readable page numbering to the notebook - Some kind of annotation scheme, like (1) I could use to refer to the drawings on the notebook. On laptop I could refer to the pictures with <page number>:<picture> style notation. Would be actually nice to follow similar workflow with laptop and iPad. Write text on full keyboard, draw diagrams for the same note on iPad at the same time. Maybe this is already possible, have never tried this.