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You’re experiencing the early pre-enshittified product. Ubers used to be cheap and excellent too, but then they started optimizing for profit. I assume this wil
by matthewdgreen 1y ago
You’re experiencing the early pre-enshittified product. Ubers used to be cheap and excellent too, but then they started optimizing for profit. I assume this will happen even faster for Waymo, just because tech firms have more experience now.
- bertil 1y agoWhich point would you expect to deteriorate?
- flutas 1y agonot op but cleanliness would be my first expectation I've seen many reports of dirty waymos on reddit recently for example. second I'd assume they would start charging you for point 3, "loading delay fee" when you take too long to load, after all that's missed profit from other rides. after that point 1 and 2, with you getting either a Jag (nice car), a Zeekr (unknown to me, Chinese company), or a Ioniq 5 (much cheaper feeling car than a Jag, with hard plastic everywhere). You want the jag? Expect to pay for it. So suddenly all cars aren't the same, and only some are comparable to Uber Black. To summarize: Point 4, followed by 3, followed by 2 and 1 (which imo are just one point). 5 I don't expect to change unless they have to start cost-cutting on compute and sensors, but I HIGHLY doubt that.
- silvestrov 1y agoWouldn't it be more likely they would charge for "leaving trash in car"? Shouldn't cost much to check car using cameras after each ride.
- bertil 1y agoI would expect this to be triggered by the next passenger complaining, but both options are likely.
- ratorx 1y agoBeing pedantic, even if you have to pay for a type of car, you still have no variance to expectation when you know what you are getting. I think that point was more about the variance in driving, driver etc rather than car type. Re: enshittification in general. I think the incentives are better aligned for self-driving. Eg. charging people who create trash etc can also make the company money whilst improving overall experience. With non self-driving, you have to rely on user ratings etc to penalise a specific driver, which seems inherently more fuzzy. The company has conflicting goals of keeping enough drivers (drives costs down etc), whilst guaranteeing a certain experience. It is difficult to create a system for drivers to “improve” (eg. Clean their car) and for a company to directly encourage that, whereas it’s easier to just charge people who litter more etc in a fully automated system.
- MBCook 1y agoNot yet enshittified > currently enshitiffied If they get worse, I’ll. Choose something else if I want. They’re not in my area today, but just because they may get worse does t mean you should avoid them today.
- teeray 1y agoAll the while though, they’re taking the air out of the room for any alternatives you might choose in the future. It only gets really enshittified once market dominance has been established.
- theamk 1y agoAre there any alternatives? Both Uber and Lyft and over decade old, and until Waymo came, there were no real alternatives to them.
- mensetmanusman 1y agoWaymo should charge dirty customers more to pay maids to clean it.
- theamk 1y agothey kinda too, they will charge you $50/$100 if you make the car dirty https://support.google.com/waymo/answer/14248697?hl=en https://support.google.com/waymo/answer/14248697?hl=en
- freddie_mercury 1y agoUber was never child friendly.
- 1oooqooq 1y agoin LA all my friend's little kids take uber and Lyft rides to catch Pokemon. don't know what hellhole you live that's worse than LA
- freddie_mercury 1y agoUber doesn't have car seats. California requires car seats until age 8. https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CCDPHP/DCDIC/SACB/CDPH%20Document%20Library/Child%20Passenger%20Safety%20Program%20(VOSP)/ChildSafetyBrochure_EngVer2023.pdf https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CCDPHP/DCDIC/SACB/CDPH%20Do... Your friends little kids aren't taking Uber. Your friends big kids are taking Uber. They're already 50% of the way to driving a car themselves by the time they can take Uber.