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Saab achieves AI milestone with Gripen E
- cheschire 1y agoWas expecting a new player with level 3 self driving cars. Was not expecting planes.
- Hamuko 1y agoSaab Automobile AB went bankrupt in 2012.
- technothrasher 1y agoNEVS (who bought the assets in 2012) still built Saab branded vehicles until 2014, and there was continued hope that Saab AB would again allow NEVS a license after they revoked it at that time. But NEVS effectively dissolved in 2023. Though there's no reason why Saab AB couldn't start using the name again themselves, or issue a license to someone else.
- jen729w 1y agoAs a proud ex-owner of a Saab 900, let's hope they never do.
- dismalaf 1y agoNah, I had an old 900 Turbo, best car I ever owned (at least subjectively, obviously fewer features than modern cars).
- jen729w 1y agoThat's what I mean! I adored my Saab. If 'they' make something now can you imagine what it'd look like. My favourite car of all time is the Volvo 850 T-5R. In cream yellow. ;-) And now look at Volvo: the same bland SUVs as everyone else. May Saab rest in peace with its integrity unblemished.
- dismalaf 1y agoAh, I gotcha. You're right, marketing people would just release something boring, even enough I think a new quirky 900 would do well with modest expectations.
- JoachimS 1y agoWhich has nothing to do with SAAB AB, the defence company. SAAB Automobile was split out from SAAB AB in 1990 with General Motors (GM) taking a 51% stake, and was fully a part of GM ten years later. GM then tried to build SAABs on GM platforms which meant the quality tanked and tanked the company too. And as another posted, What was left became Nevs. Wikipedia has a good writeup on SAAB, with its many divisions. It's a bit like Volvo. Both companies have had divisions that makes automobiles, heavy vehicles and other types of products. Volvo Cars was sold off from Volvo AB to Ford. The heavy vehicle division of SAAB (Scania) is now part of Volkswagen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_AB https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_AB
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- transcriptase 1y agoWhat about blockchain though? Does it have that?
- avhception 1y agoI really hope the Gripen stays the way it is - just solid engineering with a solid scope for a solid price point, and doesn't turn into the feature-creep, over engineered , money-gobbling monstrosity that is the F-35. I really wish that Germany would have gone with something like the Gripen instead of buying the very few white elephants that won't actually make a difference should it come to a real war with Russia. Bonus points with the friendly Scandinavians, too, and no dependence on the madman in the white house.
- tossandthrow 1y agoThese purchases was made in another time. However, given the current political climate mixed with nato spending that will likely go up to 5% will likely not be bad for European military suppliers (and their supply chains).
- geon 1y agoYes. Threatening to block export of parts to pressure other countries into buying f35 guarantees no one will ever pick american made engines again.
- fakedang 1y agoUnfortunately the Gripen also uses a lot of US parts.
- dopidopHN 1y agoUnlike the Rafale ! That’s a true European jet
- eduction 1y ago> buying the very few white elephants that won't actually make a difference There’s a lot to criticize in the f 35 program but there seems to be enough there there for it to succeed markedly in the export market - beyond Germany there is Poland, Czech Republic, Italy, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, Greece, Romania and UK — and that’s just in Europe. This includes several countries that did not historically equip with US kit (and excludes Turkey, which ordered it before it got sanctioned). You’re saying all those countries have made a huge mistake?
- Onavo 1y agoThey should replace some of the panels with machined metamaterial and give it some RF absorbing paint. Would sell like hotcakes in the current political climate.
- jillesvangurp 1y agoI don't think they have much issues with their order backlog currently. Sweden just joined NATO and every NATO member is trying to modernize their military and is increasing spending big time. This demonstration is interesting. Basically they are trialing the concept of having planes without pilots. Which of course turns them into big drones. Lots of people talking about this but not a lot of companies demonstrating they can do it. I think that might stimulate sales a lot more than some panel work.
- fnordsensei 1y agoWith the Embraer partnership[1] and the additional production capacity _and_ demand it generates, a hotcake situation is looking increasingly more realistic for Saab. 1: https://embraer.com/global/en/news?slug=1207196-gripen-e-production-line-inaugurated-in-brazil https://embraer.com/global/en/news?slug=1207196-gripen-e-pro...
- yahoozoo 1y agoWhat kind of models do these run? Vision? What “predictions” are being made?
- Tpt 1y agoThere is slightly more information on Helsing website: https://helsing.ai/centaur https://helsing.ai/centaur
- bossyTeacher 1y agoMultimodal most likely. They are able to predict time to fire accurately and are able to do complex manouvres in the air. Sounds extremely impressive to me. Maybe in the future wars will involve sending multimodal LLMs in charge of fighter jets to strike enemy country's infrastructure targets with minimal loss to human life.
- DoingIsLearning 1y agoThe risk being that your enemy cannot reasonably steal all your fighter jet airmen but the can absolute steal a transformer model.
- geon 1y agoLLMs? Sounds backwards to me. It’s not like there is a lot of text to process up there.
- JFingleton 1y agoLLMs work on tokens. There's no reason those tokens can't be something other than text.
- klabb3 1y ago> and are able to do complex manouvres in the air If there’s something pilots really don’t like, it’s when someone else does things without them knowing exactly what, when and why. There’s a reason you separate pilot flying from pilot monitoring. Automated systems are obviously crucial but they need to be so reliable and predictable that the pilot can form a mental model of how they work. If not, even simple systems like MCAS can wreak havoc. It’s like having a silent copilot fiddling on the controls - even the ”right” decision can cause problems. This is similar in AVs - when you have L3 autonomy you end up in awkward inbetween split-brain in-between states, that can result in new failure modes. > Maybe in the future wars will involve sending multimodal LLMs in charge of fighter jets Probably not LLMs but yeah, it feels like this is the type of tech that belongs in a UAV without life support systems. We are probably in the last generation or two with humans in the cockpit anyway.
- jamesblonde 1y agoSaab also work with Hopsworks - the only EU owned/based AI platform for developing and operating AI systems at scale. Saab is Palantir-free. Refernece: https://youtu.be/A7FPenztrcw?si=-_s-kQ_D-nCUWJWh&t=2276 https://youtu.be/A7FPenztrcw?si=-_s-kQ_D-nCUWJWh&t=2276 Disclaimer: i work on Hopsworks
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