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That's only because we're throwing away the hard fought prize humanity earned at the cost of two world wars and millions of lives: the system of international l

by guelo 1y ago

That's only because we're throwing away the hard fought prize humanity earned at the cost of two world wars and millions of lives: the system of international laws and the UN.

nradov 1y ago
Nah. The UN is a cute little debating society but it never had any meaningful capacity to enforce international treaties on it's own. Relations between sovereign states have always been fundamentally anarchic, and always will be. The current system might be bad, but some sort of world government run by the UN would be far worse.
- econ 1y ago
  On the contrary, the US has become England: A state of the art cutting edge industrial society and empire turned into a smug entitlement driven immoral turd that is far beyond useless for everyone outside and most inside of it. This will inevitably trigger a global effort to disconnect and help foster the downfall. It will be expensive for everyone involved. Also wise to remember, there are now so many quiet parts you can't say out loud that pretty much everyone who knows anything no longer participates in online conversation. We don't make things in the West anymore so our dialog has no constructive purpose. You don't care what I think, say or who I am but those with nefarious intend are the ones paying close attention to everyone. The destructive people are outperforming the rest of us and it can only end in one way. It has always ended the same way.
  - msgodel 1y ago
    I'm not sure the UN provides a real alternative to that though.
  - kelnos 1y ago
    > the US has become England: A state of the art cutting edge industrial society and empire turned into a smug entitlement driven immoral turd that is far beyond useless for everyone outside and most inside of it. Oh don't worry, Trump and his cronies are working hard to make the US not cutting edge at anything anymore.
- seivan 1y ago
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by guelo 1y ago

That's only because we're throwing away the hard fought prize humanity earned at the cost of two world wars and millions of lives: the system of international laws and the UN.

nradov 1y ago

Nah. The UN is a cute little debating society but it never had any meaningful capacity to enforce international treaties on it's own. Relations between sovereign states have always been fundamentally anarchic, and always will be. The current system might be bad, but some sort of world government run by the UN would be far worse.

econ 1y ago
On the contrary, the US has become England: A state of the art cutting edge industrial society and empire turned into a smug entitlement driven immoral turd that is far beyond useless for everyone outside and most inside of it. This will inevitably trigger a global effort to disconnect and help foster the downfall. It will be expensive for everyone involved. Also wise to remember, there are now so many quiet parts you can't say out loud that pretty much everyone who knows anything no longer participates in online conversation. We don't make things in the West anymore so our dialog has no constructive purpose. You don't care what I think, say or who I am but those with nefarious intend are the ones paying close attention to everyone. The destructive people are outperforming the rest of us and it can only end in one way. It has always ended the same way.
- msgodel 1y ago
  I'm not sure the UN provides a real alternative to that though.
- kelnos 1y ago
  > the US has become England: A state of the art cutting edge industrial society and empire turned into a smug entitlement driven immoral turd that is far beyond useless for everyone outside and most inside of it. Oh don't worry, Trump and his cronies are working hard to make the US not cutting edge at anything anymore.
seivan 1y ago
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