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First 2D, non-silicon computer developed
- numpad0 1y ago> molybdenum disulfide for n-type transistors and tungsten diselenide for p-type transistors Isn't this rather unusual?
- NegativeK 1y agoYes? But it’s been in research for a decade or two, based on a quick search. It’s confusing to me because moly d is a very common lubricant, even for home uses.
- yodon 1y agoWTF is up with that illustration at the top of the article?
- gfody 1y agosomeone tries to explain cmos to the graphics dept
- adastra22 1y agoTo an AI prompt more likely.
- DavidSJ 1y agoSome attempt to visually represent molybdenum disulfide and tungsten diselenide with the keys of a QWERTY keyboard.
- mjmas 1y agoWhich if it was done properly would have WSe2 and MoS2 rather than seemingly random keys
- close04 1y agoIt shows just the symbols of the elements (W, Se, Mo) and the number 2, not the compounds. The "W", "S", "M", and "2" characters are in the correct place on a QWERTY keyboard, and they appended the necessary additional characters to complete the symbols as needed, even if the "e" in Se and "o" in Mo aren't in the correct spot on the layout.
- TacticalCoder 1y agoAI but it's kinda cool. Computers books in the old days used to have crazy representations of computers and all kinds of stuff. I don't mind this one.
- bobmcnamara 1y agoIf the frame is made of atoms what are the keys and display made out of? Quarks?
- a3w 1y agoYupp, I stopped reading and closed the browser tab when I saw that. Then reconsidered, to find the original source.
- muglug 1y ago> at frequencies up to 25 kilohertz How high could this technique go?
- magicalhippo 1y agoFrom the abstract[1]: This enabled circuit operation below 3 V with an operating frequency of up to 25 kHz, which was constrained by parasitic capacitances I would guess process improvements would help a lot towards lowering those parasitics. So I wouldn't take this initial attempt as a guide for ultimate speed. Since this is 2D materials, a capacitor is a dielectric sandwiched by two conductors and capacitance scales linearly with area, I would assume just scaling things down would help immensely with parasitic capacitance. Changing materials or process could also change the dielectric constant which also affects the capacitance linearly. Paper is sadly not open access, so I can't check if they mention this or have done some theoretical peak calculations or something. Would indeed be interesting to know. [1]: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-08963-7 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-08963-7
- Razengan 1y agoA small step towards Sophons
- sitkack 1y agohttps://arstechnica.com/science/2019/08/16-bit-risc-v-processor-made-with-carbon-nanutubes/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/08/16-bit-risc-v-proces... Modern microprocessor built from complementary carbon nanotube transistors https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1493-8 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1493-8
- RayfromBoston 1y agoI wonder how this compares in speed and capabilities to photonic computers
- ConradKilroy 1y agoI was wondering that too!
- justinclift 1y agoWonder if these materials are the kind of thing the "make your own integrated circuits" people would be able to use? ie: https://sam.zeloof.xyz/category/semiconductor/ https://sam.zeloof.xyz/category/semiconductor/
- znpy 1y agoIsn’t tungsten much much more expensive than silicon and harder to work with?
- IsTom 1y agoDoes its price really matter for amounts used in chips?
- znpy 1y agoi mean, can you imagine how many chips are built? nowadays there's at least a chip in most physical objects...
- IsTom 1y agoAnd the part that is substrate, not the packaging is tiny and thin. It's much less than a gram of material in CPUs and even less in smaller chips. That's not going to be a significant part of final price. Also remember that silicon currently used is not some regular sand, but grown monocrystals that are a bit pricier.
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- Valgrim 1y agoMolybdenum and tungsten both have melting point much higher than silicon, Maybe these circuits could be a good candidate for Venus rovers?
- kxndnddn 1y agoI don't see how that would be relevant since the melting temperature of Silicon is already _significantly_ higher than temperatures on Venus can reach outside of reentry
- chasil 1y agoI had never considered this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-instruction_set_computer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-instruction_set_computer