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But who would be as cruel to put us here without giving us those answers? Who? And where did that entity come from?

mrbungie 1y ago
Maybe there was no cruelty, and we were just plain matter that fell into our encapsulating black hole. Like what happenswith our own universes black holes.
amelius 1y ago
There is no other entity. We're nothing. An algebra of nothing. Combine nothing with nothing in various ways (like S-terms) and it gives you physics, among many other things. From the inside we see a universe, from the outside you would see nothing.
- mewpmewp2 1y ago
  As an agnostic I agree, but none the less it is a whole, absurd joke to be here without any answers and I demand someone to answer me.
  - largbae 1y ago
    We apologize for the inconvenience.
    - mewpmewp2 1y ago
      This needs to be escalated. Who is your manager?
      - mindcrime 1y ago
        You are Number 6.
        ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
        Be seeing you
    - foobar1962 1y ago
      That's almost a HHGG reference.
  - satiric 1y ago
    If you agree with the above comment, doesn't that make you an atheist, not agnostic?
    - mewpmewp2 1y ago
      I used to think that I was an atheist, but I realized nothing can be proven presently in any way even if I have opinions, so I decided I have to be agnostic. So e.g. I have hunches that there's no way there is a God that's in any way as religions might think it is, and I do have a hunch that we somehow happened from probably deterministic chain reactions, but it's a hunch, it's hard to call it a belief, or it's hard to think that I believe there is no God. It's more like a hunch or a thought. Because for all I know we could be some Alien's schoolwork project, but I don't think we are. In any case as a human I feel like I have evolutionary drive to hold someone responsible, so again I demand whoever is behind all of that to give us those answers. But that is my evolutionary drive, not that I think there's actually someone like that. It's the conflict of evolutionary brain vs the logical thoughts brain. These different parts in the brain can also agree to many different things, which can ultimately make me much more agreeable person, if I decide to pick one of those opinions. But I can be very disagreeable too, because I think Big Five said it can lead to success?
      - ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
        > I used to think that I was an atheist, but I realized nothing can be proven presently in any way even if I have opinions, so I decided I have to be agnostic. As an atheist myself, I find your type of agnosticism to be overly generous to the religious theories. Do you also think that Russell's Teapot might exist or do you have a limit of unlikeliness that you draw the line at? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot
        amelius 1y ago
        Why didn't anyone tell Musk to put a teapot in space instead of a Tesla?
      - 1y ago
mock-possum 1y ago
Oh that was me - I figured if I let you guys work it out for yourselves, it’d be more meaningful or whatever. As for where I came from, I gotta admit I feel curious about that too, but mostly I’m just happy to be here. Real excited to see what you do next.
- noworriesnate 1y ago
  I believe you, could you please give me 1000 upvotes? If you do I promise to spread the good news everywhere.
tstrimple 1y ago
This is why the "but the universe couldn't spawn out of nothing!" style arguments are so annoying. They completely accept that an all powerful all knowing entity could exist for all of time and not need a creator without any supporting evidence. But the origin of the universe specifically needs to be explained in detail or science is a sham.

Maybe there was no cruelty, and we were just plain matter that fell into our encapsulating black hole. Like what happenswith our own universes black holes.

amelius 1y ago

There is no other entity. We're nothing. An algebra of nothing. Combine nothing with nothing in various ways (like S-terms) and it gives you physics, among many other things. From the inside we see a universe, from the outside you would see nothing.

mewpmewp2 1y ago
As an agnostic I agree, but none the less it is a whole, absurd joke to be here without any answers and I demand someone to answer me.
- largbae 1y ago
  We apologize for the inconvenience.
  - mewpmewp2 1y ago
    This needs to be escalated. Who is your manager?
    - mindcrime 1y ago
      You are Number 6.
      - ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
        Be seeing you
  - foobar1962 1y ago
    That's almost a HHGG reference.
- satiric 1y ago
  If you agree with the above comment, doesn't that make you an atheist, not agnostic?
  - mewpmewp2 1y ago
    I used to think that I was an atheist, but I realized nothing can be proven presently in any way even if I have opinions, so I decided I have to be agnostic. So e.g. I have hunches that there's no way there is a God that's in any way as religions might think it is, and I do have a hunch that we somehow happened from probably deterministic chain reactions, but it's a hunch, it's hard to call it a belief, or it's hard to think that I believe there is no God. It's more like a hunch or a thought. Because for all I know we could be some Alien's schoolwork project, but I don't think we are. In any case as a human I feel like I have evolutionary drive to hold someone responsible, so again I demand whoever is behind all of that to give us those answers. But that is my evolutionary drive, not that I think there's actually someone like that. It's the conflict of evolutionary brain vs the logical thoughts brain. These different parts in the brain can also agree to many different things, which can ultimately make me much more agreeable person, if I decide to pick one of those opinions. But I can be very disagreeable too, because I think Big Five said it can lead to success?
    - ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
      > I used to think that I was an atheist, but I realized nothing can be proven presently in any way even if I have opinions, so I decided I have to be agnostic. As an atheist myself, I find your type of agnosticism to be overly generous to the religious theories. Do you also think that Russell's Teapot might exist or do you have a limit of unlikeliness that you draw the line at? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot
      - amelius 1y ago
        Why didn't anyone tell Musk to put a teapot in space instead of a Tesla?
    - 1y ago

mock-possum 1y ago

Oh that was me - I figured if I let you guys work it out for yourselves, it’d be more meaningful or whatever. As for where I came from, I gotta admit I feel curious about that too, but mostly I’m just happy to be here. Real excited to see what you do next.

noworriesnate 1y ago
I believe you, could you please give me 1000 upvotes? If you do I promise to spread the good news everywhere.

tstrimple 1y ago

This is why the "but the universe couldn't spawn out of nothing!" style arguments are so annoying. They completely accept that an all powerful all knowing entity could exist for all of time and not need a creator without any supporting evidence. But the origin of the universe specifically needs to be explained in detail or science is a sham.