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From what I've seen the burned cars are Waymos, which have their own set of issues and the burning is probably more opportunistic than related to the protest in

From what I've seen the burned cars are Waymos, which have their own set of issues and the burning is probably more opportunistic than related to the protest in general. People have been protesting Waymo for years now, obstructing them with cones and other such vandalism. One big thing is that since Waymos are driverless the violence is not being perpetrated against people.

kjkjadksj 1y ago
Its LA. When the dodgers won the world series they burned a metro bus in the streets. And those events were way bigger and drew a lot more chaos and crowds. But of course downplayed due to a lack of a political angle at the time to milk out of the event, unlike now.
- orange_fritter 1y ago
  Maybe we should send in the marines every time Ohio State wins a football game https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/a-look-back-on-2021-riot-as-chittfest-returns-for-ohio-state-spring-game/ https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/a-look-back-on-2021-ri...
  - osu1183822 1y ago
    I was at OSU when they won the 2018 natty. They deployed the horse cops. The riot squad. Teargassed most of High st and campus. Arrested dozens. But it was legendary, and I will never forget that night and its energy.
seanmcdirmid 1y ago
According to LaTimes, 5 waymos were burned, so Google temporarily stopped servicing the area affected by the protests.
- komali2 1y ago
  Excellent, so it's working. Waymo has been nonconsensually testing their unready "autonomous" cars on people for far too long. As recently as last year a Waymo stopped at a stop sign and then accelerated directly towards me in a crosswalk. These vehicles aren't ready and have already injured people. Lighting them on fire seems a valid defense strategy since the government's unwilling to intervene to protect its citizens.
  - nogridbag 1y ago
    Personally I can't wait until Waymo reaches the east coast. Within the past year, my neighbor was hit in a crosswalk pushing a baby stroller (minor injuries to mom and baby, but could have been much worse). And while walking my daughter our of an kids art school, an impatient car sped past the cars stopped at the crosswalk and were a foot or two from hitting my kids. These were both human drivers. And both cases would have been avoided if they were Waymos. In the first situation, the driver was only looking forward instead of the direction they were turning. Any mode of transportation will cause injuries, especially since other humans are on the road. So just saying "Waymos have already injured people" is kind of a meaningless comment. I do think the type of accidents matter as much as the number of incidents. For example, the video that went viral recently of a self-driving Tesla randomly making a dramatic left turn into a tree on a rural road (possibly because it misinterpreted a shadow in the road) is not a mistake a human would have made.
    - komali2 1y ago
      > And both cases would have been avoided if they were Waymos. This is speculative. Waymos hit people too. I agree that pedestrian infrastructure in the USA is sorely lacking. The proven solution that worked in other countries is to take measures to reduce the number of cars on the road, not try to replace every driver with a computer that can only be trained by putting stupider computers on the road first to experiment on the population. Public transit. A subway moves literally millions more people than car infrastructure can with significantly fewer injuries - basically 0 if the platforms are built with doors or gates. Busses and cable cars, driven by professional drivers, have far lower incidence per capita of injury as well.

kjkjadksj 1y ago

Its LA. When the dodgers won the world series they burned a metro bus in the streets. And those events were way bigger and drew a lot more chaos and crowds. But of course downplayed due to a lack of a political angle at the time to milk out of the event, unlike now.

orange_fritter 1y ago
Maybe we should send in the marines every time Ohio State wins a football game https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/a-look-back-on-2021-riot-as-chittfest-returns-for-ohio-state-spring-game/ https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/a-look-back-on-2021-ri...
- osu1183822 1y ago
  I was at OSU when they won the 2018 natty. They deployed the horse cops. The riot squad. Teargassed most of High st and campus. Arrested dozens. But it was legendary, and I will never forget that night and its energy.

seanmcdirmid 1y ago

According to LaTimes, 5 waymos were burned, so Google temporarily stopped servicing the area affected by the protests.

komali2 1y ago
Excellent, so it's working. Waymo has been nonconsensually testing their unready "autonomous" cars on people for far too long. As recently as last year a Waymo stopped at a stop sign and then accelerated directly towards me in a crosswalk. These vehicles aren't ready and have already injured people. Lighting them on fire seems a valid defense strategy since the government's unwilling to intervene to protect its citizens.
- nogridbag 1y ago
  Personally I can't wait until Waymo reaches the east coast. Within the past year, my neighbor was hit in a crosswalk pushing a baby stroller (minor injuries to mom and baby, but could have been much worse). And while walking my daughter our of an kids art school, an impatient car sped past the cars stopped at the crosswalk and were a foot or two from hitting my kids. These were both human drivers. And both cases would have been avoided if they were Waymos. In the first situation, the driver was only looking forward instead of the direction they were turning. Any mode of transportation will cause injuries, especially since other humans are on the road. So just saying "Waymos have already injured people" is kind of a meaningless comment. I do think the type of accidents matter as much as the number of incidents. For example, the video that went viral recently of a self-driving Tesla randomly making a dramatic left turn into a tree on a rural road (possibly because it misinterpreted a shadow in the road) is not a mistake a human would have made.
  - komali2 1y ago
    > And both cases would have been avoided if they were Waymos. This is speculative. Waymos hit people too. I agree that pedestrian infrastructure in the USA is sorely lacking. The proven solution that worked in other countries is to take measures to reduce the number of cars on the road, not try to replace every driver with a computer that can only be trained by putting stupider computers on the road first to experiment on the population. Public transit. A subway moves literally millions more people than car infrastructure can with significantly fewer injuries - basically 0 if the platforms are built with doors or gates. Busses and cable cars, driven by professional drivers, have far lower incidence per capita of injury as well.