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There's chip manufacturing in europe. Is it on par with taiwan? No, like everywhere else it is not on par with that. Also plenty of software developers. And US
by guappa 1y ago
There's chip manufacturing in europe. Is it on par with taiwan? No, like everywhere else it is not on par with that.
Also plenty of software developers. And USA just hires indians and europeans, no reason europe can't hire indians too.
- glimshe 1y agoSalaries in Europe are just a fraction of what you can get in the US. The quality of life for a good Software Engineer in most of the US is very high. As a foreign-born Software Engineer living in the US, I'd never trade it for Europe during my working years (nothing against Europe in particular).
- LunaSea 1y agoThe political situation might change this perspective for some engineers.
- saubeidl 1y agoIt has for me - I've moved back to Europe from the US. Do I make less money? Sure. Do I feel much safer and enjoy a much higher quality of life? Yup.
- guappa 1y agoSure much more money but: No time to enjoy said money No time with your family Extremely easy to get laid off If you are laid off, all your savings can easily be used up if you need healthcare, sending you into permanent poverty. If you consider that a better quality of life… sure… but not everyone likes betting their existence on the lottery. edit: forgot to mention, if you get laid off you also get quickly deported.
- glimshe 1y agoI had plenty of time and leisure activities throughout my US career. Plenty of money for hobbies, toys and a house. I had the deportation risk while waiting for the Greencard. But I'd happily go back to my birth country with a ton of money if I was deported vs my friends who tried Europe and went back home (due to low Software wages and underemployment in Europe) with nothing to show for it. The vast majority of my US-born and foreign friends in the software field are doing great financially. A few got laid off but had good savings and were eventually hired elsewhere. Even the ones in the West Coast. They had to buy small houses (like the ones in Europe) but they got to do it anyway. I have a few friends who came from the richer parts of Europe. A handful went back, but not most. The ones from the poorer parts of Europe are certainly not going back. Europe is great for the rich, though. Thus a good place to retire if you can afford it. But the same can be said about many parts of the US, so ultimately it's a matter of taste.
- danaris 1y ago> As a foreign-born Software Engineer living in the US If things continue on the trajectory they're currently on, you probably won't be allowed to go on living in the US as a foreign-born anything.
- disgruntledphd2 1y agoYeah, and there's a _lot_ of Intel fabs in the EU. In any real geopolitical conflict, it's unlikely that their property would be respected.