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> The unstated premise of your post is that you know better than the Las Vegas city planners and that your ideas are purer than theirs. Wrong. The unstated pre

> The unstated premise of your post is that you know better than the Las Vegas city planners and that your ideas are purer than theirs. Wrong. The unstated premise of my post is that I'm sick of articles pointing out "solutions" to the climate change problem which contributes to people believing that recycling and planting trees in their yard of their big house will help. This has to do with the person who wrote the title, not the city planners. The city planners didn't claim it was a solution. I'm not commenting on the city planners at all –– and I understand the situation perfectly.

tshaddox 1y ago
This framing of climate change (as a problem which can meaningfully be addressed by private individuals changing their habits) must be loved by people who stand to benefit from climate change.
- ako 1y ago
  One night in a garage with a car with a running engine and you’re dead. Is it really that hard to imagine what happens if you have millions and millions of humans, cars, factories and other poluting items for many years? The atmosphere is not that big, that’s actually one of the main observations that astronauts have who have been to space. And if it is humans that have changed the climate by their behavior, it is also in our power to change it differently.
  - EdwardDiego 1y ago
    Sure, but the GP is referring to the tactic wherein orgs making money hand over fist from polluting substances or industries like to frame it as an individual problem to solve, not a massively systemic problem that'll require conscious collective action to resolve. E.g., BP used to advertise in my country with ways you could reduce your carbon footprint. You know, have shorter showers, recycle, etc. BP is a company profiting massively from fossil fuels,and for funsies, on whose behalf the British government asked the CIA to overthrow the democratically elected government of Iran, and install the exiled Shah, who was much more business friendly. So they pay clever people to try to refrain climate change as "if only you did some things, it'd go away, it's your fault, all of you." Pay no attention to the corporation behind the curtain.

tshaddox 1y ago

This framing of climate change (as a problem which can meaningfully be addressed by private individuals changing their habits) must be loved by people who stand to benefit from climate change.

ako 1y ago
One night in a garage with a car with a running engine and you’re dead. Is it really that hard to imagine what happens if you have millions and millions of humans, cars, factories and other poluting items for many years? The atmosphere is not that big, that’s actually one of the main observations that astronauts have who have been to space. And if it is humans that have changed the climate by their behavior, it is also in our power to change it differently.
- EdwardDiego 1y ago
  Sure, but the GP is referring to the tactic wherein orgs making money hand over fist from polluting substances or industries like to frame it as an individual problem to solve, not a massively systemic problem that'll require conscious collective action to resolve. E.g., BP used to advertise in my country with ways you could reduce your carbon footprint. You know, have shorter showers, recycle, etc. BP is a company profiting massively from fossil fuels,and for funsies, on whose behalf the British government asked the CIA to overthrow the democratically elected government of Iran, and install the exiled Shah, who was much more business friendly. So they pay clever people to try to refrain climate change as "if only you did some things, it'd go away, it's your fault, all of you." Pay no attention to the corporation behind the curtain.