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Mac OS X 10.8.1 is out.
- bangbang 14y agoThe OS now updates via the App store. Interesting...
- _djo_ 14y agoYes, the old Software Update menu just opens the App Store now.
- Someone 14y agoThat is not surprising, as you can buy it from the App store, too.
- jedberg 14y agoYeah, that completely threw me off. I thought I clicked the wrong menu item, closed it, did it again, and was thoroughly confused.
- pinko 14y agoDoesn't this imply that you can no longer update MacOS without an Apple ID? That would be a huge (and unfortunate) change.
- bdarnell 14y agoNope, I just installed the OS update on a machine that has not been linked to an apple id. The app store also has updates for the preinstalled versions of iphoto and imovie, but those do require an apple id.
- guan 14y agoI’m not sure if you can use the App Store upgrade channel without an Apple ID, but you can always download the update separately: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1571 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1571
- jasomill 14y agoIt does not. OS updates are still delivered via Software Update, not through the App Store; ML simply integrates the SU GUI into the App Store app. For instance, I updated my 3 ML Macs to 10.8.1 this afternoon with the softwareupdate command-line tool, pulling the update from a local Software Update server, neither of which would have worked had the update only been available through the App Store. Note that there's also a distinct 10.8.1 update to "Install OS X Mountain Lion.app", and that this is only distributed through the App Store — but this just slipstreams the Mountain Lion installer, and is neither necessary, nor even useful, for updating existing 10.8 systems to 10.8.1 (unless, of course, you choose to "update" by reinstalling the whole OS!).
- pooriaazimi 14y agoThe sad thing is that it takes just as long as before when it checks for new software... I was really hoping they would speed things up a bit.
- blinkingled 14y agoThis has got to be the smallest OS update in recent history - 7.28MB did not feel right!
- helipad 14y agoI heard the Save As... hack/fix was being modified to not write over the original. Crossing my fingers!
- jpxxx 14y agoI can confirm that it is NOT resolved or changed in 10.8.1.
- pooriaazimi 14y agoStill no fix for dropped Wi-Fi after waking up from sleep... I spent 15 minutes (really, I timed it) this evening closing and opening my MBP's lid until I could finally connect to my wireless router (which is literally 7 inches to the right of my MBP). If you don't know what I'm talking about, read this: http://osxdaily.com/2011/11/06/lion-wi-fi-problems-solution-mac/ http://osxdaily.com/2011/11/06/lion-wi-fi-problems-solution-... - About 300 people have posted on that topic, it's really widespread yet it hasn't been fixed after 15 months. You can also google "lion wireless problems" to see literally thousands of post on online forums about this problem. And a good news to all fellow iOS users: This "feature" (read "cancer") has spread to iOS 6 betas as well.
- fein 14y agoIs there a reason that you have to open/ close instead of just giving airport a kick in the pants?
- pooriaazimi 14y agoTurning Airport off and on doesn't seem to fix the problem for me, so I have to close the lid. My father's MacBook on the other hand only gets fixed when you turn off/on the Airport from the menu bar.
- Shivetya 14y agoThere was a similar issue with Snow Leopard and I would not doubt others had it with Lion. What irked me in my case was my first year i5 iMac (the i5 in twenty seven inch form) was perfectly fine until I upgraded. Then suddenly wireless may or may not work upon waking from sleep. The odd part was, it might work for a few seconds after waking before I would have to manually end it and connect again. It was talking to the Airport Extreme just fine, it could not get beyond it. The kicker, the copy of windows which I ran through Parallels could connect. I could surf sites and VPN through Windows in a VM while OS X applications could not, until I bounced the wireless connection.
- cstejerean 14y agoTry turning off your bluetooth. I had the same issues with wifi reconnect after sleep and they went away after turning off bluetooth on the laptop.
- pseudonym 14y agoAnd yet not a word about battery power. You'd think that if this is in this one, they'd have it at the top of the list.
- grecy 14y agoI saw a report from someone that upgraded where the battery life went from < 3 hours to > 6 hours.
- evoxed 14y agoI just upgraded ~30 minutes ago, still at 98%. It's a good sign, but I was worried when there was nothing about it in the notes. Will report back when it's closer to 50% or so (I've been getting ~4-5hrs after a typical 8-9). Edit: So far with half brightness and daily apps open (Mail, Safari, iTunes, Terminal > vim, TextMate) OS estimates 7:39. It feels like it's still going a little quick, but I could be wrong as I don't always leave iTunes or Safari to do their business.
- evoxed 14y agoMid-day followup: original post at 1pm, had been running for ~30m. Current time... 4:05... close TextMate, open InDesign. 56%, est. 2:22 remaining (obv. due to InDesign, even with a small file). No change in brightness.
- blinkingled 14y agoJust browsing HN with iGPU on and my 17" dropped fast from 98% to 89% - it does show 7:04 Remaining though. Not confident about the battery life fix.
- jpxxx 14y agoNow to see if Messages has baseline functionality or if the crippling e-mail issues are resolved... Nope? OK.
- halayli 14y agoI was expecting: Improve Safari Stability. Safari is crashing way more frequently than it used to.
- Spooky23 14y agoI've found Safari to be unusable for a year or two now on my 09 iMac. Lots of random freezing and overall poor performance. Chrome is just too much better to even bother with Safari.
- pooriaazimi 14y agoInstall some WebKit nighlies, I've heard they help a lot: http://www.webkit.org http://www.webkit.org
- kaffeinecoma 14y agoThat's interesting. I just moved back to Safari because ever since Lion, Chrome has been totally unusable for me. The Flash/Shockwave that they bundle in consistently pegged my CPU after a few minutes of use. The whole desktop would get laggy and sluggish, to the point that I could barely operate the Finder enough to do a Force Quit. After a year of trying all kinds of things to fix/mitigate it, I just gave up and went back to Safari. Weird, since I rarely hear complaints from others about Chrome, but for me it was unusable. Even tried a fresh OS install to no effect.
- philwelch 14y agoSo disable Flash and selectively reenable it for those few sites that require it. Chrome has click-to-flash functionality built in.
- kaffeinecoma 14y agoYup, tried it, did not help. The minute I'd hit a site needing flash (Google Voice was a frequent one) it'd go bonkers again.
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- avimeir 14y agoUpgraded the day it was released, last few days I feel that you could cook an egg on my MBP after 2 hours of working (nothing fancy, IDE and browsers open - no heavy GPU usage). Do more people feel that 10.8.x overheats the machine?
- _djo_ 14y agoNope, been better than Lion performance and heat wise for me. Might be worth trying a SMC reset.
- avimeir 14y agoGood idea, I'll give it a try.
- rwc 14y agoThis has been a huge issue on my mid-2010 MBP and others have reported the same on Apple forums. My MBP has been overheating, throwing up artifacts all over the screen and freezing requiring a hard reboot. So far so good though... fingers crossed.
- Dystopian 14y agoAlso have a mid-2010 that I use mostly for design. Definitely noticed the artifacts at 10.8 - haven't seen any during work today after updating to 10.8.1 though FC
- e40 14y agoYes! I definitely noticed the back, left area on the bottom was hotter than I ever remember it.
- mullingitover 14y agoDoes this fix the broken fullscreen apps with multimonitor setups?
- CaveTech 14y agoHighly doubt it. That's a relic from Lion, doesn't appear to be a "bug".
- mullingitover 14y agoAs a user of the OS, in my experience it's absolutely a bug. Now whether or no Apple is going to own up to it or just insist "No it's a feature!" and declare victory is another story. Right now it's looks like they're going with the unfortunate fingers-in-the-ears, 'lalalala I can't hear you' response. Not their finest moment.
- CaveTech 14y agoObviously the functionality of it is terrible, I don't get it at all. But how something so large would be overlooked is near impossible. Not a single developer/tester had a dual monitor setup? Unlikely. Just because you don't like how it works, doesn't mean it's a bug.
- mullingitover 14y ago>Just because you don't like how it works, doesn't mean it's a bug. OTOH just because Apple closes the bug 'as designed' doesn't make it a non-bug. Five seconds with Google tells you that it's a bug in the eyes of a vast number of users.
- 89a 14y agoStop being ridiculous
- mvelie 14y agoWith multimonitor setup the apps are allowed to use those extra monitors while in full screen. You're supposed to be able to drag pieces of the apps into them if the app supports it.
- namidark 14y agoDoes anyone know if this fixes missing icons? My MBP 2011 will come up with the wifi or other random icons hidden (I can still click on where they 'would' be and it'll show me the wifi networks, for instance)...
- ttunguz 14y agoI'm really hoping the Exchange bug is fixed. Has anyone tested?
- headbiznatch 14y agoI truly love my MacBook Pro from late 2008: "pry-it-from-my-cold-dead-hands-unless-I-get-a-new-machine" love. But I still get that anxious knot in my gut when thinking about upgrading OS X, for one reason: when problems are discovered and reported, Apple will simply hang you out to dry. Specifically, that machine had known issues with the GPU and dual boot was spotty because the fans would not run in Windows unless you manually started them in OS X. For YEARS, users begged for help and got nothing from Apple, and in some cases, Apple even actively FOUGHT them (e.g. http://www.macrumors.com/2012/04/19/blogger-victorious-over-apple-in-small-claims-case-on-nvidia-gpu-failures/ http://www.macrumors.com/2012/04/19/blogger-victorious-over-...). All this to avoid looking like they were anything less than perfect. I know - waaaaa!. It's still an awesome machine (and OS - I love and hate all platforms in one way or another), but it's a shame that Apple has earned the reputation that Jobs so famously put a face on when he felt personally challenged over these complaints: it's not broken, you are using it wrong, get over it - it's just a machine. It's a tough position to put the consumer in when you are a company that expects that customer to cede so much control in the name of "trust our authority".
- dag11 14y agoI feel the same way about my early 2009 Macbook Pro. One reason I love it is because I have easy access to the battery should I need to replace it, and I even have easy access to the hard drive bay.
- spleeyah 14y agoThe title should say OS X 10.8.1
- danudey 14y agoI'd completely forgotten that they'd changed the name. As someone who grew up with 'System 6' and 'System 7', it feels weird to chop off so much of the name all of a sudden. Also, saying 'OS Ten' out loud just seems generic.
- cpeterso 14y ago> Also, saying 'OS Ten' out loud just seems generic. I've long wondered when Apple would bump "OS X" to something like "OS 11" or just make OS "Ex" the official pronunciation. I figured they would "pull a Solaris" and claim "OS 11" just meant "OS X 10.11.0". Now it seems like it will become "iOS" everywhere.
- patrickod 14y agoDoes anyone know if this fixes stability issues waking from sleep? My 09 MBP crashes when I wake it around 50% of the time
- yew-right 14y agoOSX: How to ruin perfectly good BSD UNIX.
- nodata 14y agoOpen bug tracker please Apple! Lots of technical people are finding bugs and want to report them and keep visibility!
- city41 14y ago10.8.2 is out in pre-release: http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/23/apple-mountain-lion-10-8-2-developer-build/ http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/23/apple-mountain-lion-10-8-...
- mglass21 14y agoI never had this problem when I was using Snow Leopard, but since I've updgraded to Mountain Lion, every time I wake up my computer, the Wifi freezes. What are developers doing to fix this problem. I'm getting tired of force rebooting in order to connect.