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Yep, Musk saying he’s going to fund primary campaigns against congressmembers who vote for the Big Beautiful Bill is all just a brilliant bit of reverse psychol

Yep, Musk saying he’s going to fund primary campaigns against congressmembers who vote for the Big Beautiful Bill is all just a brilliant bit of reverse psychology. Or more likely, Congress is super worried about Roko’s Basilisk.

api 1y ago
Basilisk / Skynet 2028 I’m not 100% kidding with how human politics is going. Maybe superintelligent AI takeover would be awesome. (Wasn’t that the back story of the Culture novels?)
- JKCalhoun 1y ago
  It was more or less the story from the "Colossus" trilogy. And from the video posted the other (older episode of Nova on AI) Arthur C. Clarke is saying that if we allow A.I. to take over, we deserve it.
tetris11 1y ago
That's a wild reference! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk > Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment which states there could be an otherwise benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI) in the future that would punish anyone who knew of its potential existence but did not directly contribute to its advancement or development, in order to incentivize said advancement.
- BoxOfRain 1y ago
  It's Pascal's Wager with a sci-fi reskin, and all the objections that go along with that.
  - eru 1y ago
    Roko's Basilisk is very, very similar to Pascal's wager, but it has an extra wrinkle: The Basilisk task you to with bringing the Basilisk into being. Pascal's wager merely asks you to believe (and perhaps do some rituals, like pray or whatever), but not to make the deity more likely.
  - yubblegum 1y ago
    No it is not. Pascal was not making an objective argument for why someone should believe. He was making an argument for why he believed (based on personal religious experiences that he had had).
  - numpad0 1y ago
    To me, the Wager sounds like a pure philosophical joke, and the Basilisk sounds like a typical cult murder justification. It's not falsifiable, and it explains anything post facto. "xyz was tail of the Basilisk" can pseudo-rationalize anything you want. I am presently being compelled by future Basilisk to take another slice of cheese. I have no choice but to oblige for fear of my own life :p
- stuaxo 1y ago
  And some of the CEOs of LLM companies seem to believe in it, and that "AGI" will come from their LLM work - both of which are utterly insane points of view.
- ilyagr 1y ago
  An intelligence that reasons this way would be, in human terms, batshit insane and completely immoral. So, it seems unlikely that many or maybe any humans would experience it as "otherwise benign" if it had power over their lives. And if we do get an all-powerful dictator, we will be screwed regardless of whether their governing intelligence is artificial or composed of a group of humans or of one human (with, say, powerful AIs serving them faithfully, or access to some other technology).

api 1y ago

Basilisk / Skynet 2028 I’m not 100% kidding with how human politics is going. Maybe superintelligent AI takeover would be awesome. (Wasn’t that the back story of the Culture novels?)

JKCalhoun 1y ago
It was more or less the story from the "Colossus" trilogy. And from the video posted the other (older episode of Nova on AI) Arthur C. Clarke is saying that if we allow A.I. to take over, we deserve it.

tetris11 1y ago

That's a wild reference! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk > Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment which states there could be an otherwise benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI) in the future that would punish anyone who knew of its potential existence but did not directly contribute to its advancement or development, in order to incentivize said advancement.

BoxOfRain 1y ago
It's Pascal's Wager with a sci-fi reskin, and all the objections that go along with that.
- eru 1y ago
  Roko's Basilisk is very, very similar to Pascal's wager, but it has an extra wrinkle: The Basilisk task you to with bringing the Basilisk into being. Pascal's wager merely asks you to believe (and perhaps do some rituals, like pray or whatever), but not to make the deity more likely.
- yubblegum 1y ago
  No it is not. Pascal was not making an objective argument for why someone should believe. He was making an argument for why he believed (based on personal religious experiences that he had had).
- numpad0 1y ago
  To me, the Wager sounds like a pure philosophical joke, and the Basilisk sounds like a typical cult murder justification. It's not falsifiable, and it explains anything post facto. "xyz was tail of the Basilisk" can pseudo-rationalize anything you want. I am presently being compelled by future Basilisk to take another slice of cheese. I have no choice but to oblige for fear of my own life :p
stuaxo 1y ago
And some of the CEOs of LLM companies seem to believe in it, and that "AGI" will come from their LLM work - both of which are utterly insane points of view.
ilyagr 1y ago
An intelligence that reasons this way would be, in human terms, batshit insane and completely immoral. So, it seems unlikely that many or maybe any humans would experience it as "otherwise benign" if it had power over their lives. And if we do get an all-powerful dictator, we will be screwed regardless of whether their governing intelligence is artificial or composed of a group of humans or of one human (with, say, powerful AIs serving them faithfully, or access to some other technology).