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The video they made does not encourage piracy, but even if it did it seems bizarre to flag that as "Dangerous or Harmful Content."

AStonesThrow 1y ago
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- DanAtC 1y ago
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- kuratkull 1y ago
  People are free to rip their purchased media. He even says that he buys blurays/dvds in the article. One can assume anything, but a completely legal setup can look exactly like that. Especially as most of those are relatively old movies - looking like a list of purchased blurays/dvds to me.
  - defrost 1y ago
    It's entirely possible to populate a media tree of movies and shows with stub zero length files, just the formally named movie or tv episode names, and have Kodi and other other media managers download all the meta data (posters, descriptions, cast, etc) to sideload in the media tree or maintain in their own internal databases. It's useful for testing and debugging media software in addition to being a great way to browse through all the films with ActorX or all the movies in a genre or a year. You get the same visuals flipping through Kodi with and only lack something happening when you press play (unless you populate with named files that all hardlink to that Rick Astley music video).
- odysseus 1y ago
  He says he bought all his own movies and tv shows on physical disc and ripped them for personal use. He explains it in this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8ijmy3qPo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8ijmy3qPo and even shows some of his physical disc collection.
- mitthrowaway2 1y ago
  I have like 50 DVDs in my collection. Do you have a problem if I make backups?
  - AStonesThrow 1y ago
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    - MindSpunk 1y ago
      I think they're just a media collector. I do the same thing. I have 48TB of storage in a ZFS pool for my media rips. I couldn't share them even if I wanted to, my 4K bluray rips are like 80GB a pop. My internet isn't that good. Heaven forbid someone want to put their media collection onto redundant storage instead of cheap plastic discs with a questionable shelf life.
- geerlingguy 1y ago
  Every piece of content in my media library was paid for/legally acquired. I go through some stupid lengths (probably a few thousand hours of my life by now, from buying media from eBay, old library collections, closed movie stores, then ripping everything) to make it so.
  - AStonesThrow 1y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripping#Circumvention_of_DVD_copy_protection https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripping#Circumvention_of_DVD_c... Software tagged as "no longer available" is due to New York federal court by AACS group legal action in later March, 2014.[12] Remaining existing US software have disabled the decrypt / unencrypted / de-lock feature that allows bypass the Blu-ray disc protections. As from October, 2014 ... able to decrypt Blu-ray disc protection as being are freeware applications. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_ripper#Disabling_DRM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_ripper#Disabling_DRM You can pretend to ignore the DMCA if you want, but I cannot believe that all of your DVDs and Blu-rays were unencrypted and unencumbered by any DRM before your ripping software used leaked/cracked keys to decrypt them and reassemble them without it.
    - bigstrat2003 1y ago
      The DMCA is a morally bankrupt law whose only purpose is to engage in economic protectionism. You know it, the media industry knows it, Congress knows it, and so does everyone else. Citing it as an example of why the content is "dangerous" or "harmful" is a very poor argument indeed.
      - AStonesThrow 1y ago
        This is such a terrible fiasco. You know, I chose to criticize the one video that Jeff singled out as offending. And Jeff has a lot of great content on his channel. Jeff has good and fun DIY projects. Jeff has also said that he is supporting his family, feeding his children, paying for health insurance and medical bills with the earnings from YouTube. This is a legitimate line of work, and Jeff is honestly doing what he can in good faith. Jeff is open to complying with the rules on YouTube, if he knew what they are and they didn't subtly change all the time (he released that video last year!) And seeing that Jeff is 100% honest with his endeavors there and promoting his channel, rather than choosing a life of crime, or taking wages under-the-table, or abandoning his spouse and children... he chose a virtuous way. But what is HN telling Jeff? HN is telling Jeff that his entire ecosystem is irredeemably evil. These fundamental protections that Jeff enjoys, the ones that get him paid, those are abominations and must be destroyed. That YouTube is wrong, DMCA is wrong, advertisements must be blocked, advertisers are pure, unadulterated greed incarnate; that copyright has gone too far, that anyone should be able to grab Jeff's videos off YouTube without being offended by an advertisement or a paid sponsor. So do you want Jeff to feed his family or not? If you want to burn it all down and leave Jeff unemployed? Is that the undercurrent we are feeling here? You have come out against YouTube as if against a band of robbers, and Jeff feels abused and used and exploited right now, but still Jeff tells us that he's legally earning an income, and he's deriving that income from the infrastructure and legal framework that Hacker News hates with a white-hot hatred. So that's an overwhelming tsunami of cognitive dissonance for this self-righteous keyboard warrior tonight.
- defrost 1y ago
  Assuming good faith on Jeff's part: In fact, in my own house, for multiple decades, I've purchased physical media (CDs, DVDs, and more recently, Blu-Rays), and only have legally-acquired content on my NAS. is contrary to your bold assertion: > there are so many screenshots that indicate he is indulging in his own piracy activities. It's unclear to me how to differentiate twixt pirated movies and movies ripped from legally purchased BluRays and DVDs .. on the basis of a Kodi screenshot with folder art sourced from theTVDB, IMDB, and theMovieDB (also fanart, etc sites).
hsbauauvhabzb 1y ago
Dangerous and Harmful to googles bottom line.
layer8 1y ago
I mean, there is a risk that the feds would come down on you if you're not careful. ;)
dspillett 1y ago
> Dangerous or Harmful There were many attempts to link piracy to terrorism and the drugs trade. Because what makes enough money for crack dealers & weapons traders to use for money laundering, is some bootleg DVDs and adverts on torrent tracker web front-ends…

AStonesThrow 1y ago

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DanAtC 1y ago
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kuratkull 1y ago
People are free to rip their purchased media. He even says that he buys blurays/dvds in the article. One can assume anything, but a completely legal setup can look exactly like that. Especially as most of those are relatively old movies - looking like a list of purchased blurays/dvds to me.
- defrost 1y ago
  It's entirely possible to populate a media tree of movies and shows with stub zero length files, just the formally named movie or tv episode names, and have Kodi and other other media managers download all the meta data (posters, descriptions, cast, etc) to sideload in the media tree or maintain in their own internal databases. It's useful for testing and debugging media software in addition to being a great way to browse through all the films with ActorX or all the movies in a genre or a year. You get the same visuals flipping through Kodi with and only lack something happening when you press play (unless you populate with named files that all hardlink to that Rick Astley music video).
odysseus 1y ago
He says he bought all his own movies and tv shows on physical disc and ripped them for personal use. He explains it in this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8ijmy3qPo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8ijmy3qPo and even shows some of his physical disc collection.
mitthrowaway2 1y ago
I have like 50 DVDs in my collection. Do you have a problem if I make backups?
- AStonesThrow 1y ago
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  - MindSpunk 1y ago
    I think they're just a media collector. I do the same thing. I have 48TB of storage in a ZFS pool for my media rips. I couldn't share them even if I wanted to, my 4K bluray rips are like 80GB a pop. My internet isn't that good. Heaven forbid someone want to put their media collection onto redundant storage instead of cheap plastic discs with a questionable shelf life.
geerlingguy 1y ago
Every piece of content in my media library was paid for/legally acquired. I go through some stupid lengths (probably a few thousand hours of my life by now, from buying media from eBay, old library collections, closed movie stores, then ripping everything) to make it so.
- AStonesThrow 1y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripping#Circumvention_of_DVD_copy_protection https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripping#Circumvention_of_DVD_c... Software tagged as "no longer available" is due to New York federal court by AACS group legal action in later March, 2014.[12] Remaining existing US software have disabled the decrypt / unencrypted / de-lock feature that allows bypass the Blu-ray disc protections. As from October, 2014 ... able to decrypt Blu-ray disc protection as being are freeware applications. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_ripper#Disabling_DRM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_ripper#Disabling_DRM You can pretend to ignore the DMCA if you want, but I cannot believe that all of your DVDs and Blu-rays were unencrypted and unencumbered by any DRM before your ripping software used leaked/cracked keys to decrypt them and reassemble them without it.
  - bigstrat2003 1y ago
    The DMCA is a morally bankrupt law whose only purpose is to engage in economic protectionism. You know it, the media industry knows it, Congress knows it, and so does everyone else. Citing it as an example of why the content is "dangerous" or "harmful" is a very poor argument indeed.
    - AStonesThrow 1y ago
      This is such a terrible fiasco. You know, I chose to criticize the one video that Jeff singled out as offending. And Jeff has a lot of great content on his channel. Jeff has good and fun DIY projects. Jeff has also said that he is supporting his family, feeding his children, paying for health insurance and medical bills with the earnings from YouTube. This is a legitimate line of work, and Jeff is honestly doing what he can in good faith. Jeff is open to complying with the rules on YouTube, if he knew what they are and they didn't subtly change all the time (he released that video last year!) And seeing that Jeff is 100% honest with his endeavors there and promoting his channel, rather than choosing a life of crime, or taking wages under-the-table, or abandoning his spouse and children... he chose a virtuous way. But what is HN telling Jeff? HN is telling Jeff that his entire ecosystem is irredeemably evil. These fundamental protections that Jeff enjoys, the ones that get him paid, those are abominations and must be destroyed. That YouTube is wrong, DMCA is wrong, advertisements must be blocked, advertisers are pure, unadulterated greed incarnate; that copyright has gone too far, that anyone should be able to grab Jeff's videos off YouTube without being offended by an advertisement or a paid sponsor. So do you want Jeff to feed his family or not? If you want to burn it all down and leave Jeff unemployed? Is that the undercurrent we are feeling here? You have come out against YouTube as if against a band of robbers, and Jeff feels abused and used and exploited right now, but still Jeff tells us that he's legally earning an income, and he's deriving that income from the infrastructure and legal framework that Hacker News hates with a white-hot hatred. So that's an overwhelming tsunami of cognitive dissonance for this self-righteous keyboard warrior tonight.
defrost 1y ago
Assuming good faith on Jeff's part: In fact, in my own house, for multiple decades, I've purchased physical media (CDs, DVDs, and more recently, Blu-Rays), and only have legally-acquired content on my NAS. is contrary to your bold assertion: > there are so many screenshots that indicate he is indulging in his own piracy activities. It's unclear to me how to differentiate twixt pirated movies and movies ripped from legally purchased BluRays and DVDs .. on the basis of a Kodi screenshot with folder art sourced from theTVDB, IMDB, and theMovieDB (also fanart, etc sites).

hsbauauvhabzb 1y ago

Dangerous and Harmful to googles bottom line.

layer8 1y ago

I mean, there is a risk that the feds would come down on you if you're not careful. ;)

dspillett 1y ago

> Dangerous or Harmful There were many attempts to link piracy to terrorism and the drugs trade. Because what makes enough money for crack dealers & weapons traders to use for money laundering, is some bootleg DVDs and adverts on torrent tracker web front-ends…