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Can you elaborate why Claude Code is that much better in regard to also the missing in built IDE functionality?

by flawn 1y ago

paulddraper 1y ago
It’s smarter. And as of the latest release, has VSCode/Cursor/Windsurf integration.
- eloisant 1y ago
  How can it be smarter? Cursor can use Claude 4 as model, so it should be the same?
  - ramraj07 1y ago
    The system prompt, agent landscape and fundamental behavior is different. Its just like using chatgpt vs openai api. A single chatgpt conversation can go forever because it's not just doing one call for each message you send.
  - naiv 1y ago
    It has a totally different way of dealing with context
kissgyorgy 1y ago
It can use any command line tool very well. I just told him "Look up the status of the created systemd servive". It ssh-d to the machine, run "systemctl status", read the output and fixed issues based on that! That was totally unexpected.
- rschiavone 1y ago
  I hope this question doesn't sound snarky, it's a legitimate concern that I want to address for myself: how do you ensure that once it ssh's to the machine, it does not execute potentially damaging commands?
  - TheYumasi 1y ago
    Claude code asks you permissions for every command. It also gives you the possibility of marking commands as safe so next time it can use them without asking .
    - therein 1y ago
      So these agents that people are so excited about spawning in parallel stop and ask you before executing each command they choose to execute? What kind of life is that. I'd rather do something myself than tell 5 AI agents what I want and then keep approving each command they are going to run. I'm not saying it is better if they run commands without my approval. This whole thing is just doesn't seem as exciting as other people make it out to be. Maybe I am missing something. It can literally be a single command to ssh into that machine and check if the systemd service is running. If it is in your history, you'd use ctrl+r to lookback anyway. It sounds so much worse asking some AI agent to look up the status of that service we deployed earlier. And then approve its commands on top of that.
      - weird-eye-issue 1y ago
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        yard2010 1y ago
        He has a point, that's quite depressing that a work you had to think and act in order to solve hard problems now became almost the same as scanning barcodes in any supermarket, and it's outright sad that most people are happy about it and being snarky towards anyone that points the hardships that come with it. Philosophically speaking (not practically) it's like living the industrial revolution again. It's lit! But it's also terrifying and saddening. Personally it makes me want to savor each day as the world would never be the same again.
        weird-eye-issue 1y ago
        If these tools make your job as easy as scanning barcodes then you really weren't working on anything interesting anyways.
luckystarr 1y ago
I mostly use it to understand and fix my bugs/Rust compilation problems that I can't be bothered to fix. 95% happy with the results so far. For coding I use Claude in chat though, as my thoughts are mostly not clear enough at the start to finish a component to my liking. Fixing bugs is easier, though I had to tell it to "not remove features" sometimes. Feature gone, bug gone. ;) Claude code now automatically integrates into my ide for diff preview. It's not sugar, but it's very low friction, even from the cli.

Can you elaborate why Claude Code is that much better in regard to also the missing in built IDE functionality?

by flawn 1y ago

Can you elaborate why Claude Code is that much better in regard to also the missing in built IDE functionality?

paulddraper 1y ago

It’s smarter. And as of the latest release, has VSCode/Cursor/Windsurf integration.

eloisant 1y ago
How can it be smarter? Cursor can use Claude 4 as model, so it should be the same?
- ramraj07 1y ago
  The system prompt, agent landscape and fundamental behavior is different. Its just like using chatgpt vs openai api. A single chatgpt conversation can go forever because it's not just doing one call for each message you send.
- naiv 1y ago
  It has a totally different way of dealing with context

kissgyorgy 1y ago

It can use any command line tool very well. I just told him "Look up the status of the created systemd servive". It ssh-d to the machine, run "systemctl status", read the output and fixed issues based on that! That was totally unexpected.

rschiavone 1y ago
I hope this question doesn't sound snarky, it's a legitimate concern that I want to address for myself: how do you ensure that once it ssh's to the machine, it does not execute potentially damaging commands?
- TheYumasi 1y ago
  Claude code asks you permissions for every command. It also gives you the possibility of marking commands as safe so next time it can use them without asking .
  - therein 1y ago
    So these agents that people are so excited about spawning in parallel stop and ask you before executing each command they choose to execute? What kind of life is that. I'd rather do something myself than tell 5 AI agents what I want and then keep approving each command they are going to run. I'm not saying it is better if they run commands without my approval. This whole thing is just doesn't seem as exciting as other people make it out to be. Maybe I am missing something. It can literally be a single command to ssh into that machine and check if the systemd service is running. If it is in your history, you'd use ctrl+r to lookback anyway. It sounds so much worse asking some AI agent to look up the status of that service we deployed earlier. And then approve its commands on top of that.
    - weird-eye-issue 1y ago
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      - yard2010 1y ago
        He has a point, that's quite depressing that a work you had to think and act in order to solve hard problems now became almost the same as scanning barcodes in any supermarket, and it's outright sad that most people are happy about it and being snarky towards anyone that points the hardships that come with it. Philosophically speaking (not practically) it's like living the industrial revolution again. It's lit! But it's also terrifying and saddening. Personally it makes me want to savor each day as the world would never be the same again.
        weird-eye-issue 1y ago
        If these tools make your job as easy as scanning barcodes then you really weren't working on anything interesting anyways.

luckystarr 1y ago

I mostly use it to understand and fix my bugs/Rust compilation problems that I can't be bothered to fix. 95% happy with the results so far. For coding I use Claude in chat though, as my thoughts are mostly not clear enough at the start to finish a component to my liking. Fixing bugs is easier, though I had to tell it to "not remove features" sometimes. Feature gone, bug gone. ;) Claude code now automatically integrates into my ide for diff preview. It's not sugar, but it's very low friction, even from the cli.