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I fully expect MS to change the VS Code license in the not so far future to make applications like Cursor not possible. Forking might be a thing initially but w

I fully expect MS to change the VS Code license in the not so far future to make applications like Cursor not possible. Forking might be a thing initially but will quickly fade since without the backing of MS the ecosystem around it will die.

evo_9 1y ago
This is why I’m using Zed now, and Claude Code. I like to keep Zed pretty minimal and I’m slowly weening off of Cursor in favor of Claude Code when I need it
- asadm 1y ago
  have you tried zed agent? how does it compare with cursor?
  - artdigital 1y ago
    It’s getting better fast. It’s still needs refining but I have no issues spending the entire day in it
    - insane_dreamer 1y ago
      I've been getting rate limit errors with Zed (using my own Claude API) while the same query will work in Claude Code. So still some rough edges there.
      - pimeys 1y ago
        I pay that 20€ a month for a subscription, and the claude opus thinking model from Zed is really solid now. Had similar issues earlier, now it works. Also it's great that I do not need to use the vscode ecosystem. Zed is snappy, has a great UI and now a good assistant too.
        artdigital 1y ago
        I’m not a fan of the 20 tool limit unless you use the Max option which costs you 1 credit for each and every tool call + message. Seems like an artificial limit and it always rips me out
        pimeys 1y ago
        You can just click continue and keep burning tokens. It's not such a big deal.
        artdigital 1y ago
        Doesn’t it require you to create a new chat?
    - dkersten 1y ago
      Yeah, it took me a few weeks to wean off cursor but I’m now happily using Zed exclusively. Cursors tab predictions are still a bit better and snappier but I feel like Zed is a better editor experience over all and I don’t rely on AI anyway. Agent mode works pretty well for me though. Also cursor leaks memory pretty bad for me. There’s still room for improvement but Zed is working on fixes and improvements at a high pace and I’m already pretty happy with where it’s at.
mirzap 1y ago
Not likely. They open sourcing the Copilot UI is the way to kill further attempts to fork. Now you don't have to fork to have features you could get only by forking and maintaining the fork. The amount of work to make a Cursor competitor is significantly reduced.
rs186 1y ago
If you pay attention to VSCode changelog for the past few months, you'll notice that most of it is about Copilot. It feels almost as if VSCode is not adding new features and is in maintenance mode for now. I have no idea if that's actually true, but if this continues, a fork will be easily maintainable.

evo_9 1y ago

This is why I’m using Zed now, and Claude Code. I like to keep Zed pretty minimal and I’m slowly weening off of Cursor in favor of Claude Code when I need it

asadm 1y ago
have you tried zed agent? how does it compare with cursor?
- artdigital 1y ago
  It’s getting better fast. It’s still needs refining but I have no issues spending the entire day in it
  - insane_dreamer 1y ago
    I've been getting rate limit errors with Zed (using my own Claude API) while the same query will work in Claude Code. So still some rough edges there.
    - pimeys 1y ago
      I pay that 20€ a month for a subscription, and the claude opus thinking model from Zed is really solid now. Had similar issues earlier, now it works. Also it's great that I do not need to use the vscode ecosystem. Zed is snappy, has a great UI and now a good assistant too.
      - artdigital 1y ago
        I’m not a fan of the 20 tool limit unless you use the Max option which costs you 1 credit for each and every tool call + message. Seems like an artificial limit and it always rips me out
        pimeys 1y ago
        You can just click continue and keep burning tokens. It's not such a big deal.
        artdigital 1y ago
        Doesn’t it require you to create a new chat?
  - dkersten 1y ago
    Yeah, it took me a few weeks to wean off cursor but I’m now happily using Zed exclusively. Cursors tab predictions are still a bit better and snappier but I feel like Zed is a better editor experience over all and I don’t rely on AI anyway. Agent mode works pretty well for me though. Also cursor leaks memory pretty bad for me. There’s still room for improvement but Zed is working on fixes and improvements at a high pace and I’m already pretty happy with where it’s at.

mirzap 1y ago

Not likely. They open sourcing the Copilot UI is the way to kill further attempts to fork. Now you don't have to fork to have features you could get only by forking and maintaining the fork. The amount of work to make a Cursor competitor is significantly reduced.

rs186 1y ago

If you pay attention to VSCode changelog for the past few months, you'll notice that most of it is about Copilot. It feels almost as if VSCode is not adding new features and is in maintenance mode for now. I have no idea if that's actually true, but if this continues, a fork will be easily maintainable.