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Markdown is the defacto language of the llms. Between this and the python library from Microsoft that converts all of their formats to markdown I think that mar
by whatever1 1y ago
Markdown is the defacto language of the llms. Between this and the python library from Microsoft that converts all of their formats to markdown I think that markdown officially has won the markup language war.
- jerkstate 1y agonah, if you're talking about math, it's LaTeX
- irrational 1y agoTIL there is a markup language war. Who are the combatants?
- stingraycharles 1y agoRST is one.
- TheDong 1y agohtml, markdown, reStructuredText, wikitext, AsciiDoc, emacs org mode, LaTeX, and a bunch of others. In some contexts, JSX and markdown are also competing. I think HTML is the true winner.
- Diti 1y agoI also vote for HTML. It’s the only language I can write in which also includes all the metadata I want to include (schema.org and wikidata.org ontologies).
- Diti 1y agoI’m very curious about why I’ve been downvoted. I assumed the HN crowd was tech-savvy enough to know what ontologies are? And one can’t write a blog post in Turtle.
- slightwinder 1y agoDepends on which war we are talking about. Personal writing? Professional writing? Machine-readable? For personal writing, HTML is not really participating, for the rest, mostly yes, even though for AI-tooling markdown seems the preferred language now. Which opens the question, is there a real advantage in using Markdown with AI instead of HTML? Or did nobody ever tried this?
- hiccuphippo 1y agoBut which dialect of Markdown?
- nixpulvis 1y agoProbably Apple Flavored.
- johanyc 1y agoCould that end up being the standard flavor? I’m a bit annoyed by the differences between flavors
- DocTomoe 1y agoThat's the beauty of standards ... there are so many of them.
- trentnix 1y ago30% of what you type disappears.
- DidYaWipe 1y agoThat afflicts anything you "type" on Jony Ive's "butterfly" shitboard. Oh wait, maybe it's 30% of it is repeated...
- bqmjjx0kac 1y agoI think over the course of 3+ years, that keyboard probably wasted at least 30 minutes of my life.
- DidYaWipe 1y agoWow, you got off easy. That keyboard was such a POS that a Wall Street Journal writer did a feature story on it without correcting any of the mistakes the keyboard introduced. It was essentially illegible. Then the Web site had buttons that you could push to remove each kind of error and make it legible: https://www.wsj.com/graphics/apple-still-hasnt-fixed-its-macbook-keyboard-problem/ https://www.wsj.com/graphics/apple-still-hasnt-fixed-its-mac...
- SOLAR_FIELDS 1y agoWhich is funny because it’s really an incomplete spec that originated from a blog post. But it won anyway because both machines and humans can use it with relative ease, which is apparently quite a difficult thing to achieve in a markup language
- nextos 1y agoIt might be my Emacs bias, but I find Org much nicer as a format. For instance, timestamps and todo items make it trivial to use Org as a planner. This would be great to have in applications such as Apple Notes.
- bqmjjx0kac 1y agoI love org-mode, but if I were king, it would accept freakin' back-quotes for monospaced text. Instead, it takes ~tilde~ or =equals=, and I will never remember the difference no matter how many times I look it up.
- nextos 1y ago=string= leads to the text being transcribed verbatim. A good hint is to recall that the equals sign kinda implies verbatim.
- kevhito 1y agoIronic then that [0] (the first hit when I search "emacs org mode tutorial") says: You can make words *bold*, /italic/, _underlined_, =code= and ~verbatim~, and, if you must, +strike-through+. [0]: https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org4beginners.html https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org4beginners.html
- nextos 1y agoThat seems to be a very old tutorial. It's indeed confusing that they host that on the official site. The official manual states equals is used for =verbatim= quotes: https://orgmode.org/manual/Emphasis-and-Monospace.html https://orgmode.org/manual/Emphasis-and-Monospace.html
- DidYaWipe 1y agoExcept of course that almost nobody makes a READER for Markdown. WTF? It's mystifying. You find readme documents in Markdown in every open-source repo, but why? What are you supposed to read them with? After much searching I finally ended up with Marked, on the Mac. A paid app. But that's about it for options. And no, I'm not talking about text editors that offer a "preview" pane that you can optionally invoke. I'm talking about a simple reader for Markdown that renders it, so you're not reading a shitty text file with a bunch of formatting codes in it. Why bother putting them in, if nothing parses and acts on them?
- TheDong 1y agoMarkdown renders to html. Browsers read html. You're supposed to read markdown with a browser by rendering it to html and reading the html.
- DidYaWipe 1y agoWhat a dumb pain in the ass. Do you seriously check out a repo, run the read-me file through a Markdown-to-HTML converter, and then launch a browser to read the result?
- selcuka 1y ago> the python library from Microsoft that converts all of their formats to markdown Thank you for pointing me to the MarkItDown library [1]. I had no idea such a thing existed. [1] https://github.com/microsoft/markitdown https://github.com/microsoft/markitdown
- threetonesun 1y agoHTML is. Markdown is a way of writing it that is human friendly. A notes app that can do rich-text to expressive HTML would be even better but it seems like that's not what the market is interested in. And if you doubt me on that last point, look at things like callouts in Obsidian, clearly people want to be able to do more but we keep tacking weird formatting extensions onto Markdown.
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