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Sky honestly does not even look that impressive from the video on their website. So it can save calendar events if you type something into a prompt. Wow.... Wh

Sky honestly does not even look that impressive from the video on their website. So it can save calendar events if you type something into a prompt. Wow.... What am I missing ?

IanCal 1y ago
> So it can save calendar events if you type something into a prompt They didn't type it. They hit a button, it suggested adding it to the calendar and they approved it. You can still find some of the flow forced, but I think you've missed the starting point here.
skydhash 1y ago
Nothing really! Saving one or two clicks for people that can't bother to learn any UI. The true automation I needed which leads me to leave macOS is workspace arrangement. Now I'm using Sway on Linux and I now that Super+1 is Emacs, Super+2 is the browser, Super+3 is where the terminals are,... Typing the same shortcut again brings me in the last workspace. And no sloooooow animations in the way.
- IggleSniggle 1y ago
  This stuff is readily available in the macOS ecosystem, but I don't fault anyone for jumping ship for these reasons. It's the same reason I did, before I figured out how to do it in macOS land by way of being required to work on macOS anyway.
  - skydhash 1y ago
    I know how to them in macOS, it's just not pleasant. I still use macOS, but for very specific workflows. My daily computing is on Linux where I got everything to behave how I like.
- 1123581321 1y ago
  You can set all that up on macOS and disable animations.
dawnerd 1y ago
Doesn’t macOS already have add to calendar when it supports dates? I too was confused why they used that in particular. Nothing they Showed made me go wow that’ll save me time. And what makes any of that “ai”? It really seems like a solution in search of a problem.
- rcarmo 1y ago
  It is inferring the UI content. There's a bit more to it than it looks at first glance.
  - krackers 1y ago
    What does "inferring the UI content mean". You said you have some knowledge of how it pulls it off, is it using accessibility API and apple events behind the scenes? Those are the only two APIs I know of on mac that can do this (besides just grabbing the pixels of a window). I've always been hoping that the rise of LLMs leads to a resurgence in apps being able to respond to apple events, since it seems like a perfect fit.
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rcarmo 1y ago
It's not about the app, it's about it existing outside of Apple and their push for Apple Intelligence.
- throwaway314155 1y ago
  I mean the article claims that it's good - better than all other existing solutions, and hence why it's worth talking about in the first place.
  - rcarmo 1y ago
    It is _much_ better than all the other MCP servers I tried for the Mac so far (I've been doing one myself and know a lot about Mac automation, so I've benchmarked them, and none can do the kind of UI analysis I see in the demos).
ndr42 1y ago
To ask it to organize the download folder seems great - more examples: https://www.macstories.net/stories/sky-for-mac-preview/ https://www.macstories.net/stories/sky-for-mac-preview/
sgt101 1y ago
My brother, you haven't drunk the right coolaid. It's not impressive because text is a shit interface for interacting with a machine. GUI's are much better and we established this in like 1982. Also what they are doing in that demo is inserting a machine shim in an interaction between people, which is what people, time and again, say they do not want.
- bronlund 1y ago
  :D
cypherpunks01 1y ago
Seems that it can also text your friends (so you don't have to)
break_the_bank 1y ago
i am building in a similar space, while i see where you are coming from I am extremely curious on what "a mind blowing" or "i need that" experience looks like to you from a desktop AI product

Sky honestly does not even look that impressive from the video on their website. So it can save calendar events if you type something into a prompt. Wow.... What am I missing ?

IanCal 1y ago

> So it can save calendar events if you type something into a prompt They didn't type it. They hit a button, it suggested adding it to the calendar and they approved it. You can still find some of the flow forced, but I think you've missed the starting point here.

skydhash 1y ago

Nothing really! Saving one or two clicks for people that can't bother to learn any UI. The true automation I needed which leads me to leave macOS is workspace arrangement. Now I'm using Sway on Linux and I now that Super+1 is Emacs, Super+2 is the browser, Super+3 is where the terminals are,... Typing the same shortcut again brings me in the last workspace. And no sloooooow animations in the way.

IggleSniggle 1y ago
This stuff is readily available in the macOS ecosystem, but I don't fault anyone for jumping ship for these reasons. It's the same reason I did, before I figured out how to do it in macOS land by way of being required to work on macOS anyway.
- skydhash 1y ago
  I know how to them in macOS, it's just not pleasant. I still use macOS, but for very specific workflows. My daily computing is on Linux where I got everything to behave how I like.
1123581321 1y ago
You can set all that up on macOS and disable animations.

dawnerd 1y ago

Doesn’t macOS already have add to calendar when it supports dates? I too was confused why they used that in particular. Nothing they Showed made me go wow that’ll save me time. And what makes any of that “ai”? It really seems like a solution in search of a problem.

rcarmo 1y ago
It is inferring the UI content. There's a bit more to it than it looks at first glance.
- krackers 1y ago
  What does "inferring the UI content mean". You said you have some knowledge of how it pulls it off, is it using accessibility API and apple events behind the scenes? Those are the only two APIs I know of on mac that can do this (besides just grabbing the pixels of a window). I've always been hoping that the rise of LLMs leads to a resurgence in apps being able to respond to apple events, since it seems like a perfect fit.

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rcarmo 1y ago

It's not about the app, it's about it existing outside of Apple and their push for Apple Intelligence.

throwaway314155 1y ago
I mean the article claims that it's good - better than all other existing solutions, and hence why it's worth talking about in the first place.
- rcarmo 1y ago
  It is _much_ better than all the other MCP servers I tried for the Mac so far (I've been doing one myself and know a lot about Mac automation, so I've benchmarked them, and none can do the kind of UI analysis I see in the demos).

ndr42 1y ago

To ask it to organize the download folder seems great - more examples: https://www.macstories.net/stories/sky-for-mac-preview/ https://www.macstories.net/stories/sky-for-mac-preview/

sgt101 1y ago

My brother, you haven't drunk the right coolaid. It's not impressive because text is a shit interface for interacting with a machine. GUI's are much better and we established this in like 1982. Also what they are doing in that demo is inserting a machine shim in an interaction between people, which is what people, time and again, say they do not want.

bronlund 1y ago
:D

cypherpunks01 1y ago

Seems that it can also text your friends (so you don't have to)

break_the_bank 1y ago

i am building in a similar space, while i see where you are coming from I am extremely curious on what "a mind blowing" or "i need that" experience looks like to you from a desktop AI product