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ICE isn’t a paramilitary org. ICE isn’t a military in the usual sense of the term, but they’re pretty close to a gendarmerie — they’re heavily armed, and outsid

ICE isn’t a paramilitary org. ICE isn’t a military in the usual sense of the term, but they’re pretty close to a gendarmerie — they’re heavily armed, and outside of local control, but are a recognized arm of the state. Same with CBP, same with DEA, same with ATF. Paramilitaries are unofficial forces — Proud Boys, Klansmen, and what are commonly called “militas” are paramilitary orgs, in that they have structure and organization and ideological backing, but do not receive explicit governmental sanction and are not under direct governmental control. The Sturmabteilung supported Hitler and his ideals, but were not an arm of the German government at any point.

Supermancho 1y ago
You say "unofficial" and the courts say "unlawful". This is a matter of semantics. If you're a non-military federal agent who is masked when apprehending a civilian, the purpose is to shield yourself from civil consequence because your actions are likely unlawful.
- freeone3000 1y ago
  There are no civil consequences for individual policemen in the United States. It needs to be recognized that Trump is acting with legitimate authority. Everyone carrying out and implementing his policies believes he can do them. They’re not in rebellion; they are obeying state direction. It’s important to recognize what stage of fascism we are in.
  - Supermancho 1y ago
    > There are no civil consequences for individual policemen in the United States The issue is future culpability, not current prosecution. > They’re not in rebellion; they are obeying state direction. It’s important to recognize what stage of fascism we are in. Irrelevant. > It needs to be recognized that Trump is acting with legitimate authority. SMH Fascism is not rebellion. Fascists are often elected and granted authority, in the vacuum they are responsible for. Kim Jong Un has legitimate authority, in the same vein. This feels like you're trolling. Good luck with that.
    - freeone3000 1y ago
      There seems to be this idea, among people and the media, that “oh it’s ‘illegal’ so it’ll stop soon”. This is not the case. Trump cannot be opposed by the government; he is the government.

Supermancho 1y ago

You say "unofficial" and the courts say "unlawful". This is a matter of semantics. If you're a non-military federal agent who is masked when apprehending a civilian, the purpose is to shield yourself from civil consequence because your actions are likely unlawful.

freeone3000 1y ago
There are no civil consequences for individual policemen in the United States. It needs to be recognized that Trump is acting with legitimate authority. Everyone carrying out and implementing his policies believes he can do them. They’re not in rebellion; they are obeying state direction. It’s important to recognize what stage of fascism we are in.
- Supermancho 1y ago
  > There are no civil consequences for individual policemen in the United States The issue is future culpability, not current prosecution. > They’re not in rebellion; they are obeying state direction. It’s important to recognize what stage of fascism we are in. Irrelevant. > It needs to be recognized that Trump is acting with legitimate authority. SMH Fascism is not rebellion. Fascists are often elected and granted authority, in the vacuum they are responsible for. Kim Jong Un has legitimate authority, in the same vein. This feels like you're trolling. Good luck with that.
  - freeone3000 1y ago
    There seems to be this idea, among people and the media, that “oh it’s ‘illegal’ so it’ll stop soon”. This is not the case. Trump cannot be opposed by the government; he is the government.