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>We imagine artists spending their working hours pushing the limits of expression. But the median artist isn’t producing gallery pieces. They produce on brief:
by slg 1y ago
>We imagine artists spending their working hours pushing the limits of expression. But the median artist isn’t producing gallery pieces. They produce on brief: turning out competent illustrations and compositions for magazine covers, museum displays, motion graphics, and game assets.
One of the more eye-opening aspects of this technology is finding out how many of my peers seemingly have no understanding or respect for the concept of art.
- simonw 1y agoHow do you mean?
- slg 1y agoWhole libraries have been written over millennia about the importance and purpose of art, and that specific quote reduced it all down to nothing more than the creation of a product with a specific and mundane function as part of some other product. I genuinely feel bad for people with that mindset towards art.
- zemo 1y agoart to them is a commodity, not a facet of expression or cultural participation.
- jowea 1y agoI think that quote is talking about commercial art and there being a market willing to pay a large number of artists to do relatively mundane artworks. It does not exclude the possibility of artists doing art for art's sake as a hobby or a few elite artists doing paid high culture art. It's like when photography became a thing and there was a lot less paid work available to painters.
- slg 1y agoI don't see that as a distinction worth making. Commercial art is still art. Music, for example, is an incredibly commercialized art. Replacing every song or album I have ever purchased with AI generated facsimiles is also an incredibly depressing thought. And let me tell you, my tastes aren't "a few elite artists doing paid high culture art". I would hope people still find value in painting, especially in a world with photography. That is even ignoring the strained nature of this analogy. The context of the original quote was in a discussion of the inherent plagiarism of AI. Photography wasn't invited by stealing painters work.
- throwaway743 1y agoThere will be people who see something created by AI, are told it was made by a human, and have an emotional reaction as if it were. That alone challenges the idea that emotional impact depends on human authorship. Does knowing a human made something automatically make it more valuable? Should it? Shouldn't the work speak for itself, rather than rely on the cult of personality around its creator? These discussions always seem to focus on form as if that is what defines art. But in many cases concept is more important. Duchamp didn't craft the urinal. The idea was the art. If a piece moves someone, and that reaction changes based on who or what made it, what does that really say about how we judge art?
- jowea 1y agoI mean, context changing how we see art seems natural enough. Would anyone care about analyzing this painting[1] if wasn't created by Hitler? Would anyone care about this child's drawings[2] if it wasn't 800 years old? Would people care about a stained glass depiction of the Crucifixion of Jesus if it wasn't a central event in Christianity? Personally, I think in a lot of cases, people want to feel some sort of emotional connection with the artist through their creation, which doesn't work if you know it's AI created. [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Adolf_Hitler_Der_Alte_Hof.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Adolf_Hitler_Der_Alt... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onfim https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onfim
- jowea 1y ago
- jryle70 1y agoHuh? just because most of my day spent writing simple scripts for cleaning up data, to use as an example, doesn't mean I didn't have many many years honing my programming skills. Someone who points out I'm mostly doing mundane things is telling the truth, not that they underestimate my knowledge or skills or don't appreciate the beauty of code.
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- slg 1y agoI don't know how you interpreted my comment about art being undervalued as me undervaluing coding, but it is the wrong interpretation of what I said.
- wiseowise 1y agoNobody talks about art that survived millennia.
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