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This is much more nuanced than many people realize. Assuming you want to commit suicide by a sensible cocktail of drugs: - something against the anxiety - so

This is much more nuanced than many people realize. Assuming you want to commit suicide by a sensible cocktail of drugs: - something against the anxiety - something that puts you into a deep sleep - something against the muscle spasms - something that stops your heart / breathing From the top of my head that would be: - ketamine - propofol / thiopental - potassium chloride Most of these things are not available legally, you need a doctor to help you acquire them. To implement the protocol in a way that prevents unnecessary suffering you need someone to administer the injections, preferable a professional. Last but not least you might not want to be alone, but be accompanied by loved ones. All involved people might face criminal charges, in some jurisdictions even not trying to resuscitate would be a crime.

Nextgrid 1y ago
Wouldn't an inert gas cylinder and a mask be sufficient? There's a history of accidents where victims suddenly pass out in enclosed, poorly-ventilated spaces (caves, etc), and even worse, people who go help them will themselves succumb to the same thing.
- niemandhier 1y ago
  Even then you’d want a medical professional to supervise the procedure to ensure its efficacy, it being free from pain and avoid crippling but non lethal attempts. Also not every person that expresses the desire to die should necessarily act upon that momentary desire. By enabling a supervised procedure, that mandates counseling, such cases could be recognized.
- lunar-whitey 1y ago
  Inert gas asphyxiation is less straightforward because some ventilation should be present to allow exhalation of carbon dioxide. Significant pain results if this is not provided.
lunar-whitey 1y ago
It is not terribly complicated for most people given access to the right drugs. Right to die groups in Switzerland successfully use a single large dose of a barbiturate, either injected or taken orally (in the latter case, an antiemetic is usually also given to prevent vomiting). Barbiturates are also favored, where available, for medically assisted dying in the United States. The larger problem is access to the drugs. Barbiturates are not favored for most other purposes due to the high abuse potential. I believe is why they are not recommended for this purpose in Canada, for example.

Nextgrid 1y ago

Wouldn't an inert gas cylinder and a mask be sufficient? There's a history of accidents where victims suddenly pass out in enclosed, poorly-ventilated spaces (caves, etc), and even worse, people who go help them will themselves succumb to the same thing.

niemandhier 1y ago
Even then you’d want a medical professional to supervise the procedure to ensure its efficacy, it being free from pain and avoid crippling but non lethal attempts. Also not every person that expresses the desire to die should necessarily act upon that momentary desire. By enabling a supervised procedure, that mandates counseling, such cases could be recognized.
lunar-whitey 1y ago
Inert gas asphyxiation is less straightforward because some ventilation should be present to allow exhalation of carbon dioxide. Significant pain results if this is not provided.

lunar-whitey 1y ago

It is not terribly complicated for most people given access to the right drugs. Right to die groups in Switzerland successfully use a single large dose of a barbiturate, either injected or taken orally (in the latter case, an antiemetic is usually also given to prevent vomiting). Barbiturates are also favored, where available, for medically assisted dying in the United States. The larger problem is access to the drugs. Barbiturates are not favored for most other purposes due to the high abuse potential. I believe is why they are not recommended for this purpose in Canada, for example.