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>Students can argue they didn’t read the syllabus, missed the first day of class, etc. but have a harder time arguing they signed a pledge without reading it.
by lotsofpulp 1y ago
>Students can argue they didn’t read the syllabus, missed the first day of class, etc. but have a harder time arguing they signed a pledge without reading it.
I am confused as to why anyone would need to sign a pledge to provide proof that they are aware cheating is bad. If you don’t know that by the time you are in university, then tough luck. One would hope a defense of “I didn’t know cheating was frowned upon” would get you laughed out.
- watwut 1y agoIt is because many people hide behind "legal" when they want to dodge accusation of "unethical". And since the process of expulsion or other punishment is sort of legalistic, the institution needs legalistic defense.
- lotsofpulp 1y agoSurely, cheating and fraud is already illegal? If you cheat on your taxes or cook the books or otherwise defraud others, the government doesn’t need a signed pledge to punish you.
- nradov 1y agoCheating in school generally wouldn't meet the definition of criminal fraud, depending on the facts of the particular case. Normally it's only an administrative issue.
- watwut 1y agoCheating on exam is fully legal. Likewise, cheating om your wife. Or, cheating in a card game.
- lotsofpulp 1y agoAs is expelling someone from a school (at least a college). It is not a legal right to be able to attend a school. Also, cheating in a personal card game might not result in consequences, but in a casino it could result in prosecution: https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/group-accused-in-225k-dice-sliding-cheating-scheme-at-las-vegas-casino/ https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/group-accused-in-225k... Same with cheating in a spouse, you won’t go to jail, but it will adversely affect you in divorce proceedings. Point being that society has some expectations of people knowing what the rules are without people signing a pledge.
- watwut 1y agoI would refer back to my own "since the process of expulsion or other punishment is sort of legalistic, the institution needs legalistic defense". Universities do not allow their faculties and workers to expel students randomly and on whim. There is process about it, to prevent abuse of power. Consent forms are normal in whole range of areas, because society does not expect people to know all the rules that exist.
- c22 1y agoThe IRS wont accept your tax filings if they are not signed.