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victorbjorklund 1y ago
And when there were no mass deaths they claimed it was because everyone got a fake shoot instead with water. Which makes no sense at all. There is an evil conspiracy to kill everyone with a vaccine but then the conspiracists (guess doctors?) just give everyone a fake dose instead.
- reverendsteveii 1y ago
  Hey now, that's not fair. They claimed the shot was fake so mass deaths weren't happening, and that the mass deaths happened but were covered up, and that the shot was engineered to delay the mass deaths in order to aid said coverup, and also several other things. It was the reality of the week club, whatever reality resonates with you, that's the actual truth and aren't you just the cleverest chap for picking up on it when all the "experts" and their "education" and "evidence" and "experience" all tried to cover up the real truth: You Were Right All Along.
  - Izkata 1y ago
    They always said that it would be most visible 3-5 years after vaccination due to cumulative damage. I just did a quick search and am only finding numbers through 2023, the 2-year mark.
- Izkata 1y ago
  Other way around, the saline shots were supposedly given to important people so they could pretend to get the vaccination without having to actually do it.
  - victorbjorklund 1y ago
    Yea, that was the line at first. But when you asked them 1-2 years after the shots where all the dead vaccinated people are they often say it didnt happen because most didnt get the real vaccine (of course different anti-vaxxers are going to have different explantions. This is just some of them)
    - zahlman 1y ago
      My experience was that they just disappeared; it became harder and harder to find anyone willing to propose any theory at all in that general ballpark.
mrguyorama 1y ago
Even worse, they spend every cent on stupid prepper bullshit like freeze dried rations! Rations will not help you or your family if civilization breaks down. Without a literal army, you are no more powerful than the ones who did nothing to prepare. All rations do is ensure that you starve to death a month later than expected. Even better, those of you that collected guns and ammo as a hobby are about as prepared as the people who jokingly collect bottle caps in reference to Fallout. You have ensured you die first. If you are not currently capable of planting, tending, and harvesting an entire acre of potatoes every year, you will not survive post civilization. If you do not have a stable of oxen and a simple machine shop to repair the old fashioned steel plow you own, you will not survive. If you do not already have fully formed pest control, without chemical inputs or external solutions, you will not survive. It took humanity thousands of years to develop agriculture. Farming isn't a game. You will not pick it up after the end of civilization. You will not get it right on the first try. You will not reinvent it while hungry. Even if you get lucky and nothing goes wrong for a few growing seasons, you WILL have a failed crop eventually, and you will starve. Even successful farming is an eventual death sentence without civilization. People who prep for "after the end" are not serious people. If you had a serious concern about the potential fall of civilization, you would not buy food and bullets, you would be throwing every resource you have at improving democratic representation and access, to prevent civilization from falling. It might not be possible to restart if we kill it. Prepping is like trying to develop a backup strategy after the datacenter has already burned down. Even if you are successful, have you really, honestly, considered what success looks like?
- mywittyname 1y ago
  I'll throw in my $0.02 on this topic. I have a basement full of shelf stable foods, a reasonably large battery backup system plus some solar panels, and a couple of guns. I don't see civilization collapsing overnight. I see it playing out as a series of scarce times that ebb and flow. I don't think the supermarket will go away, but I do think there will be times when it looks like those videos of Soviet groceries, where there's not much selection. And I'm aware that natural disasters are increasing in frequency and cost/impact to a degree that the government won't or can't do anything about them. So I need to be able to weather the storms for a few months at a time. As an aside, I also prepared by living in a neighborhood where people take care of each other and is close enough I can walk/bike to places. Basically, I picture the USA collapse as turning the place into Puerto Rico, not Mad Max.
im3w1l 1y ago
This assumes belief must be absolute. They may have believed it was 90% likely, 51% likely or even just 10% likely (even a 10% risk of mass death is arguably unacceptable and worth crowing about).
- flir 1y ago
  crowing == boasting, bragging, celebrating.

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by flir 1y ago

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And when there were no mass deaths they claimed it was because everyone got a fake shoot instead with water. Which makes no sense at all. There is an evil conspiracy to kill everyone with a vaccine but then the conspiracists (guess doctors?) just give everyone a fake dose instead.

reverendsteveii 1y ago
Hey now, that's not fair. They claimed the shot was fake so mass deaths weren't happening, and that the mass deaths happened but were covered up, and that the shot was engineered to delay the mass deaths in order to aid said coverup, and also several other things. It was the reality of the week club, whatever reality resonates with you, that's the actual truth and aren't you just the cleverest chap for picking up on it when all the "experts" and their "education" and "evidence" and "experience" all tried to cover up the real truth: You Were Right All Along.
- Izkata 1y ago
  They always said that it would be most visible 3-5 years after vaccination due to cumulative damage. I just did a quick search and am only finding numbers through 2023, the 2-year mark.
Izkata 1y ago
Other way around, the saline shots were supposedly given to important people so they could pretend to get the vaccination without having to actually do it.
- victorbjorklund 1y ago
  Yea, that was the line at first. But when you asked them 1-2 years after the shots where all the dead vaccinated people are they often say it didnt happen because most didnt get the real vaccine (of course different anti-vaxxers are going to have different explantions. This is just some of them)
  - zahlman 1y ago
    My experience was that they just disappeared; it became harder and harder to find anyone willing to propose any theory at all in that general ballpark.

mrguyorama 1y ago

Even worse, they spend every cent on stupid prepper bullshit like freeze dried rations! Rations will not help you or your family if civilization breaks down. Without a literal army, you are no more powerful than the ones who did nothing to prepare. All rations do is ensure that you starve to death a month later than expected. Even better, those of you that collected guns and ammo as a hobby are about as prepared as the people who jokingly collect bottle caps in reference to Fallout. You have ensured you die first. If you are not currently capable of planting, tending, and harvesting an entire acre of potatoes every year, you will not survive post civilization. If you do not have a stable of oxen and a simple machine shop to repair the old fashioned steel plow you own, you will not survive. If you do not already have fully formed pest control, without chemical inputs or external solutions, you will not survive. It took humanity thousands of years to develop agriculture. Farming isn't a game. You will not pick it up after the end of civilization. You will not get it right on the first try. You will not reinvent it while hungry. Even if you get lucky and nothing goes wrong for a few growing seasons, you WILL have a failed crop eventually, and you will starve. Even successful farming is an eventual death sentence without civilization. People who prep for "after the end" are not serious people. If you had a serious concern about the potential fall of civilization, you would not buy food and bullets, you would be throwing every resource you have at improving democratic representation and access, to prevent civilization from falling. It might not be possible to restart if we kill it. Prepping is like trying to develop a backup strategy after the datacenter has already burned down. Even if you are successful, have you really, honestly, considered what success looks like?

mywittyname 1y ago
I'll throw in my $0.02 on this topic. I have a basement full of shelf stable foods, a reasonably large battery backup system plus some solar panels, and a couple of guns. I don't see civilization collapsing overnight. I see it playing out as a series of scarce times that ebb and flow. I don't think the supermarket will go away, but I do think there will be times when it looks like those videos of Soviet groceries, where there's not much selection. And I'm aware that natural disasters are increasing in frequency and cost/impact to a degree that the government won't or can't do anything about them. So I need to be able to weather the storms for a few months at a time. As an aside, I also prepared by living in a neighborhood where people take care of each other and is close enough I can walk/bike to places. Basically, I picture the USA collapse as turning the place into Puerto Rico, not Mad Max.

im3w1l 1y ago

This assumes belief must be absolute. They may have believed it was 90% likely, 51% likely or even just 10% likely (even a 10% risk of mass death is arguably unacceptable and worth crowing about).

flir 1y ago
crowing == boasting, bragging, celebrating.