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That is not true: with God all things are possible.

by recursivedoubts 1y ago

kelseyfrog 1y ago
Could God make a man so rich that even he wouldn't let him into heaven?
- victorbjorklund 1y ago
  Wouldnt or couldnt?
- recursivedoubts 1y ago
  "I don’t know. When my bird was looking at my computer monitor I thought, ‘That bird has no idea what he’s looking at.’ And yet what does the bird do? Does he panic? No, he can’t really panic, he just does the best he can. Is he able to live in a world where he’s so ignorant? Well, he doesn’t really have a choice. The bird is okay even though he doesn’t understand the world. You’re that bird looking at the monitor, and you’re thinking to yourself, ‘I can figure this out.’ Maybe you have some bird ideas. Maybe that’s the best you can do.”
- lurk2 1y ago
  No. Similarly, God cannot make a married bachelor, because this is nonsensical. The conversation then turns to questions about how we define God’s omnipotence: Doesn’t the existence of any sort of limitation placed upon God imply he is bound by higher principles and thus not omnipotent? Possibly; but this may just be a lack of imagination on our part. For example, can God abanlqhgfznsjks? Probably not, because that particular string was just a random assortment of keys that I pressed; it conveys nothing meaningful, so to ask if God could abanlqhgfznsjks might not really be asking anything at all.
  - recursivedoubts 1y ago
    the human mind fails at infinities i don't know why we find this so obvious when discussing math and yet so difficult when discussing God
  - kelseyfrog 1y ago
    I believe God can abanlqhgfznsjks. If a lot of bottoms can, than surely God can too.
  - nitwit005 1y ago
    The bible portrays God as explicitly being able to do nonsensical things, like creating a burning bush that is somehow not consumed. That it was on fire, but also not on fire, at the same time, was proof of a miracle. And more generally, that's just the nature of the supernatural in any religion. If what was going on was entirely logical, it wouldn't be a miracle.
    - recursivedoubts 1y ago
      some people freak out about the idea of a burning bush talking at people i freak out about what the bush said: I AM THAT I AM the first recorded instance of recursion, spoken in a language famous for its lack of abstraction, to an uneducated goat herder, communicating an idea that even the greeks struggled with thousands of years later in a much more sophisticated and leisured culture

That is not true: with God all things are possible.

kelseyfrog 1y ago

Could God make a man so rich that even he wouldn't let him into heaven?

victorbjorklund 1y ago
Wouldnt or couldnt?
recursivedoubts 1y ago
"I don’t know. When my bird was looking at my computer monitor I thought, ‘That bird has no idea what he’s looking at.’ And yet what does the bird do? Does he panic? No, he can’t really panic, he just does the best he can. Is he able to live in a world where he’s so ignorant? Well, he doesn’t really have a choice. The bird is okay even though he doesn’t understand the world. You’re that bird looking at the monitor, and you’re thinking to yourself, ‘I can figure this out.’ Maybe you have some bird ideas. Maybe that’s the best you can do.”
lurk2 1y ago
No. Similarly, God cannot make a married bachelor, because this is nonsensical. The conversation then turns to questions about how we define God’s omnipotence: Doesn’t the existence of any sort of limitation placed upon God imply he is bound by higher principles and thus not omnipotent? Possibly; but this may just be a lack of imagination on our part. For example, can God abanlqhgfznsjks? Probably not, because that particular string was just a random assortment of keys that I pressed; it conveys nothing meaningful, so to ask if God could abanlqhgfznsjks might not really be asking anything at all.
- recursivedoubts 1y ago
  the human mind fails at infinities i don't know why we find this so obvious when discussing math and yet so difficult when discussing God
- kelseyfrog 1y ago
  I believe God can abanlqhgfznsjks. If a lot of bottoms can, than surely God can too.
- nitwit005 1y ago
  The bible portrays God as explicitly being able to do nonsensical things, like creating a burning bush that is somehow not consumed. That it was on fire, but also not on fire, at the same time, was proof of a miracle. And more generally, that's just the nature of the supernatural in any religion. If what was going on was entirely logical, it wouldn't be a miracle.
  - recursivedoubts 1y ago
    some people freak out about the idea of a burning bush talking at people i freak out about what the bush said: I AM THAT I AM the first recorded instance of recursion, spoken in a language famous for its lack of abstraction, to an uneducated goat herder, communicating an idea that even the greeks struggled with thousands of years later in a much more sophisticated and leisured culture