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https://www.nature.com/nature-index/institution-outputs/generate/all/global/all https://www.nature.com/nature-index/institution-outputs/gene... 8 of the top 10

by dluan 1y ago

https://www.nature.com/nature-index/institution-outputs/generate/all/global/all https://www.nature.com/nature-index/institution-outputs/gene... 8 of the top 10 universities by global research output are Chinese. The lone American university just had all of it's government contracts and federal funding frozen or withdrawn. This is a very simple move that can be reversed quickly, but it's going to have a generational impact that will never be undone. I couldn't come up with a single worse decision at the most inopportune time if you asked me to. I guess now is a good time to plug the China Scholarship Council, which is seeing record highs of foreign students studying in China. The Chinese government is paying foreigners to get degrees in China, waiving tuition and providing stipends. https://www.cucas.cn/china_scholarship/ https://www.cucas.cn/china_scholarship/, https://www.cucas.cn/china_scholarship/ https://www.cucas.cn/china_scholarship/

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seanmcdirmid 1y ago
> 8 of the top 10 universities by global research output are Chinese. Having been in academia before, I don't see this as meaningful (quantity vs quality). But it is just as much as not meaningful for American universities. The biggest problem with Chinese universities is that they mostly teach classes in Chinese, so you have to become fluent in Chinese first, which takes around one or two years of intensive Chinese study. And branch campuses...you need to avoid those. Harbin Institute of Technology in Shenzhen is probably not going to be the same thing as studying at HIT in Harbin (and aren't all of the institute of tech universities run by the PLA?). Focus on top schools only: Guangdong, Zhongshan (sun yat-sen) University is pretty good, Shanghai Jiaotong and Fudan in Shanghai, PKU/Tsinghua in Beijing, the science and tech one in Hefei, etc...if you are a foreign student and work your way up from their language program your chances should be OK (but my experience is 20+ years out of date so who knows).

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seanmcdirmid 1y ago

> 8 of the top 10 universities by global research output are Chinese. Having been in academia before, I don't see this as meaningful (quantity vs quality). But it is just as much as not meaningful for American universities. The biggest problem with Chinese universities is that they mostly teach classes in Chinese, so you have to become fluent in Chinese first, which takes around one or two years of intensive Chinese study. And branch campuses...you need to avoid those. Harbin Institute of Technology in Shenzhen is probably not going to be the same thing as studying at HIT in Harbin (and aren't all of the institute of tech universities run by the PLA?). Focus on top schools only: Guangdong, Zhongshan (sun yat-sen) University is pretty good, Shanghai Jiaotong and Fudan in Shanghai, PKU/Tsinghua in Beijing, the science and tech one in Hefei, etc...if you are a foreign student and work your way up from their language program your chances should be OK (but my experience is 20+ years out of date so who knows).