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Anthropic launches a voice mode for Claude

122 points by kordlessagain 1y ago

grg0 1y ago
Does it say "y'all"?
- esafak 1y ago
  No, it says youse.
  - eru 1y ago
    Alas, English used to have a perfectly fine 'thou', but then people abandoned it. And now they are re-inventing the same distinction. Now just wait until people address a single other person with youse, and then have to make up yous'all to address groups. (Evolution of language is fascinating. I'm just pretending to be upset.)
    - thfuran 1y ago
      Ye is really the missing piece.
    - deleted 1y ago
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    - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
      > English used to have a perfectly fine 'thou' Thou was second-person singular. Y’all is second-person plural.
      - mkl 1y ago
        "You" used to be the second person plural, as a counterpart to "thou".
        eru 1y ago
        Exactly. And y'all had to be invented, because 'you' became ambiguous.
    - anton-c 1y ago
      A user named eru likes language, I'm not surprised! Big fan of linguistics and philology myself too. Edit: Also 'youse guys' is for groups I thought, but maybe you're keeping it to one word contractions, haha
  - mattnewton 1y ago
    ^yinz
refulgentis 1y ago
There was a seemingly odd quick sequence of announcements from elevenlabs the last 24 hours, makes me think it's them - notably, I believe they launched 2.0 of their conversational AI today.
- ecocentrik 1y ago
  The Feynman voice would be great. I've been using it for non-fiction audio books and it works so well.
owenpalmer 1y ago
Things I love: 1. Start and stop button. I love this explicit control over who is talking when. 2. Ability to upload files while the voice chat is going. Great idea. Often times I use gpt voice chat for studying, and it's annoying when I need to add another PDF to the context, since I need to stop the chat, upload, and then restart the voice session. 3. Real-time text display during voice chat. I asked you to take the derivative of a function I described, and it outlined its steps, but it wasn't just the transcription of what it was saying. Things I hate: 1. The transcription is terrible. It took me 10 tries during the conversation to describe f(x) = x^2. Looking back on the transcriptions, it's literally nonsense. 2. There was a buggy moment when the voice conversation started but it was still demoing all the voice options simultaneously. Need some polishing.
- Fairburn 1y ago
  Yet, using Abacus.AIs mobile app, you do not need a.. talk.. no talk UI control. It detects when you interject. Would be a nice feature for Claude as well.
  - jazzyjackson 1y ago
    But does the bot know not to interject if I pause to think?
    - Fairburn 1y ago
      Essentially, yes. From Abacus: I try to strike a balance. If it seems like you might be gathering your thoughts, I usually wait a bit to give you space, but I'm also here to prompt or help if needed. If you ever feel like I'm jumping in too soon, just let me know!
      - jazzyjackson 1y ago
        That's impressive if it's actually able to adjust its own thresholds so that I can tell it to modify its behavoir (rather like Interstellar's Tars being told to adjust its humor and honesty parameters). Without using Abacus I have a hunch that it's just telling you its capable of that. LLM's in general know very little about themselves, only what they're told in the system prompt. But system prompt could include tool use that alters its own behavior.
jsnider3 1y ago
I like it, but giving Claude a "Deep Research" mode would be better.
- polskibus 1y ago
  It has Research , works well with Web Search. Saves a lot of time compared to googling and trying to synthesise knowledge yourself.
- heyhuy 1y ago
  Have not used it myself, but Claude has Research mode in beta.
- jsnider3 1y ago
  What a coincidence! I was just added to the "Deep Research" beta.
bariswheel 1y ago
I really want to like Claude, but I hit their limit WAY too early when I PAID for it, 9 months ago, WAY before I hit any type of limit on gippity. (gippity - gpt , gimminy - gemini).
- ChadNauseam 1y ago
  Haha, I respect calling it gippity. It reminds me of "I call patrick subaru"
  - eru 1y ago
    I call her gippity, but I abbreviate the name as GPT when typing. Just like world-wide-web and www.
curtisszmania 1y ago
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andrewstuart 1y ago
I really wish Anthropic would focus all of their developer resources on implementing “download all files”. I know it’s a massive challenge and might take years to get right but the endless copy and paste is wearing me down.
- bdangubic 1y ago
  use claude code
  - andrewstuart 1y ago
    I can’t afford it.
    - mceachen 1y ago
      Their new MAX 5x plan is flat rate $3/day but IME it's enough to drive all-day multi-concurrent-sessions if you stay on sonnet. Their MAX 20x is double the cost $~6/day for quadruple the quota. Keep in mind that Opus chows quota at 5x+ the rate of sonnet.
      - arresin 1y ago
        I have no idea how anyone can go through that many tokens and maintain coherent code. Really, I think I’m missing something I would love to see a video of this being done live. My own experience (since 2022) is having to keep a very close eye on everything that’s happening. Refactoring manually. Going between models. Reformulating the prompt. Etc.
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        mceachen 1y ago
simonw 1y ago
From that article: > According to the report, Anthropic was holding talks with Amazon, the company’s major investor and partner, and voice-focused AI startup ElevenLabs, to possibly drive future voice features for Claude. > It’s unclear which of those partnerships, if any, came to fruition. Here's an easy way to confirm that: check Anthropic's "Trust Center" and review any recent updates. https://trust.anthropic.com/updates https://trust.anthropic.com/updates Sure enough, on May 29th they have a subprocessor change: > As of May 29th, 2025, we have added ElevenLabs, which supports text to speech functionality in Claude for Work mobile apps. I wonder what they're using for speech-to-text?
- zaptrem 1y ago
  Maybe also 11L’s Scribe model?
nprateem 1y ago
Meh, Anthropic are dead to me until they have structured output.
- revicon 1y ago
  The prefil method works pretty well... https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/test-and-evaluate/strengthen-guardrails/increase-consistency#example-daily-sales-report https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/test-and-evaluate/strengt...
  - nprateem 1y ago
    Yeah but it's XML not pydantic which means it doesn't play well with failovers to other providers. It would be tolerable if Anthropic didn't have such abysmal API uptime but at this point no way will I use them for my SaaS.
- kashunstva 1y ago
  > Anthropic are dead to me… They’re dead to me until they fix their over-aggressive auto-ban. Having done nothing more than traveling frequently, rarely using VPN and only using it for coding, I was caught up in a random inexplicable auto-ban. Zero customer service. Appeal process that leads to a black hole. Whatever their technical advances, their user experience when something goes awry is terrible.
- kordlessagain 1y ago
  LOL wut? It does tool calls, just build a tool that outputs it?
  - nprateem 1y ago
    LOL wut? The point of fallbacks are easy resiliency, not coding the same prompt n times through n different providers whaaat
diamondfist25 1y ago
Hn people are too poor to pay for max?
- rudedogg 1y ago
  Or some people aren’t seeing the value at $100/mo

122 points by kordlessagain 1y ago

grg0 1y ago

Does it say "y'all"?

esafak 1y ago
No, it says youse.
- eru 1y ago
  Alas, English used to have a perfectly fine 'thou', but then people abandoned it. And now they are re-inventing the same distinction. Now just wait until people address a single other person with youse, and then have to make up yous'all to address groups. (Evolution of language is fascinating. I'm just pretending to be upset.)
  - thfuran 1y ago
    Ye is really the missing piece.
  - deleted 1y ago
    [deleted]
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > English used to have a perfectly fine 'thou' Thou was second-person singular. Y’all is second-person plural.
    - mkl 1y ago
      "You" used to be the second person plural, as a counterpart to "thou".
      - eru 1y ago
        Exactly. And y'all had to be invented, because 'you' became ambiguous.
  - anton-c 1y ago
    A user named eru likes language, I'm not surprised! Big fan of linguistics and philology myself too. Edit: Also 'youse guys' is for groups I thought, but maybe you're keeping it to one word contractions, haha
- mattnewton 1y ago
  ^yinz

refulgentis 1y ago

There was a seemingly odd quick sequence of announcements from elevenlabs the last 24 hours, makes me think it's them - notably, I believe they launched 2.0 of their conversational AI today.

ecocentrik 1y ago
The Feynman voice would be great. I've been using it for non-fiction audio books and it works so well.

owenpalmer 1y ago

Things I love: 1. Start and stop button. I love this explicit control over who is talking when. 2. Ability to upload files while the voice chat is going. Great idea. Often times I use gpt voice chat for studying, and it's annoying when I need to add another PDF to the context, since I need to stop the chat, upload, and then restart the voice session. 3. Real-time text display during voice chat. I asked you to take the derivative of a function I described, and it outlined its steps, but it wasn't just the transcription of what it was saying. Things I hate: 1. The transcription is terrible. It took me 10 tries during the conversation to describe f(x) = x^2. Looking back on the transcriptions, it's literally nonsense. 2. There was a buggy moment when the voice conversation started but it was still demoing all the voice options simultaneously. Need some polishing.

Fairburn 1y ago
Yet, using Abacus.AIs mobile app, you do not need a.. talk.. no talk UI control. It detects when you interject. Would be a nice feature for Claude as well.
- jazzyjackson 1y ago
  But does the bot know not to interject if I pause to think?
  - Fairburn 1y ago
    Essentially, yes. From Abacus: I try to strike a balance. If it seems like you might be gathering your thoughts, I usually wait a bit to give you space, but I'm also here to prompt or help if needed. If you ever feel like I'm jumping in too soon, just let me know!
    - jazzyjackson 1y ago
      That's impressive if it's actually able to adjust its own thresholds so that I can tell it to modify its behavoir (rather like Interstellar's Tars being told to adjust its humor and honesty parameters). Without using Abacus I have a hunch that it's just telling you its capable of that. LLM's in general know very little about themselves, only what they're told in the system prompt. But system prompt could include tool use that alters its own behavior.

jsnider3 1y ago

I like it, but giving Claude a "Deep Research" mode would be better.

polskibus 1y ago
It has Research , works well with Web Search. Saves a lot of time compared to googling and trying to synthesise knowledge yourself.
heyhuy 1y ago
Have not used it myself, but Claude has Research mode in beta.
jsnider3 1y ago
What a coincidence! I was just added to the "Deep Research" beta.

bariswheel 1y ago

I really want to like Claude, but I hit their limit WAY too early when I PAID for it, 9 months ago, WAY before I hit any type of limit on gippity. (gippity - gpt , gimminy - gemini).

ChadNauseam 1y ago
Haha, I respect calling it gippity. It reminds me of "I call patrick subaru"
- eru 1y ago
  I call her gippity, but I abbreviate the name as GPT when typing. Just like world-wide-web and www.

curtisszmania 1y ago

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andrewstuart 1y ago

I really wish Anthropic would focus all of their developer resources on implementing “download all files”. I know it’s a massive challenge and might take years to get right but the endless copy and paste is wearing me down.

bdangubic 1y ago
use claude code
- andrewstuart 1y ago
  I can’t afford it.
  - mceachen 1y ago
    Their new MAX 5x plan is flat rate $3/day but IME it's enough to drive all-day multi-concurrent-sessions if you stay on sonnet. Their MAX 20x is double the cost $~6/day for quadruple the quota. Keep in mind that Opus chows quota at 5x+ the rate of sonnet.
    - arresin 1y ago
      I have no idea how anyone can go through that many tokens and maintain coherent code. Really, I think I’m missing something I would love to see a video of this being done live. My own experience (since 2022) is having to keep a very close eye on everything that’s happening. Refactoring manually. Going between models. Reformulating the prompt. Etc.
      - deleted 1y ago
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      - deleted 1y ago
        [deleted]
      - mceachen 1y ago

simonw 1y ago

From that article: > According to the report, Anthropic was holding talks with Amazon, the company’s major investor and partner, and voice-focused AI startup ElevenLabs, to possibly drive future voice features for Claude. > It’s unclear which of those partnerships, if any, came to fruition. Here's an easy way to confirm that: check Anthropic's "Trust Center" and review any recent updates. https://trust.anthropic.com/updates https://trust.anthropic.com/updates Sure enough, on May 29th they have a subprocessor change: > As of May 29th, 2025, we have added ElevenLabs, which supports text to speech functionality in Claude for Work mobile apps. I wonder what they're using for speech-to-text?

zaptrem 1y ago
Maybe also 11L’s Scribe model?

nprateem 1y ago

Meh, Anthropic are dead to me until they have structured output.

revicon 1y ago
The prefil method works pretty well... https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/test-and-evaluate/strengthen-guardrails/increase-consistency#example-daily-sales-report https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/test-and-evaluate/strengt...
- nprateem 1y ago
  Yeah but it's XML not pydantic which means it doesn't play well with failovers to other providers. It would be tolerable if Anthropic didn't have such abysmal API uptime but at this point no way will I use them for my SaaS.
kashunstva 1y ago
> Anthropic are dead to me… They’re dead to me until they fix their over-aggressive auto-ban. Having done nothing more than traveling frequently, rarely using VPN and only using it for coding, I was caught up in a random inexplicable auto-ban. Zero customer service. Appeal process that leads to a black hole. Whatever their technical advances, their user experience when something goes awry is terrible.
kordlessagain 1y ago
LOL wut? It does tool calls, just build a tool that outputs it?
- nprateem 1y ago
  LOL wut? The point of fallbacks are easy resiliency, not coding the same prompt n times through n different providers whaaat

diamondfist25 1y ago

Hn people are too poor to pay for max?

rudedogg 1y ago
Or some people aren’t seeing the value at $100/mo