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This is such a bad, unbelievable self own for the United States. Our education system was the envy of the world, it has been an economic engine for our country,

This is such a bad, unbelievable self own for the United States. Our education system was the envy of the world, it has been an economic engine for our country, creating technical expertise, high tech startups and jobs, and exporting our values across the world. But because of a perception that Academica is a liberal power center, conservatives are focused on destroying it. And that's what this is, make no mistake; this is a culture war, an anti-intellectualism crusade, and a celebration of ignorance and raw power triumphing over reason. A dark time for America as the destruction of our education system unfolds, but good people are fighting back.

jm20 1y ago
Lol in what world was the US education system the envy of the world? We’ve been routinely clowned for overspending, poor outcomes, university tuition bloat, and everything else under the sun.
- searine 1y ago
  K-12 and undergraduate are passable. The thing that the US excels at is scale. No other country can match the US academic research environment. Thousands of well funded research institutions. Broad competitive funding opportunities at every school. It was a golden age of knowledge that is being crushed by MAGA.
- jasonhong 1y ago
  What is the basis for your assertion? Pretty much every list of top universities in the world routinely lists a large number of US universities. For example, in the Shanghai ranking, 16 of the top 20 universities are in the USA. https://www.shanghairanking.com/rankings/arwu/2024 https://www.shanghairanking.com/rankings/arwu/2024 In US News and World reports of top universities, 14 of the top 20 universities in the world are in the USA. https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/ra... In The Times Higher Education ranking, 13 of the top 20 universities in the world are in the USA. https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/latest/world-ranking https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankin... To be blunt, your assertion has extremely weak evidence. I urge you to look at facts and evidence and not your feels.
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- tzs 1y ago
  > Lol in what world was the US education system the envy of the world? This one. In most rankings of work universities US schools dominate the top of the list. Same when it comes to winning Nobel prizes--8 of the top 10 are in the US (the other 2 are Oxford and Cambridge).
- tstrimple 1y ago
  You're not wrong. These people are repeating the same inane bullshit about healthcare in the US being the best in the world. Which it arguably is if you're fucking loaded and don't have to care about cost. But it's the furthest thing from the truth for the average citizen. The average citizen has the same shit level of education as they have to healthcare. But since the rich can get the best of both, "our nation" has the best of both regardless of how many fall through the cracks and suffer as a result. The poors should have just played the capitalism game better and they would have been fine I guess. That's what freedom actually means after all.
  - ModernMech 1y ago
    > But it's the furthest thing from the truth for the average citizen. Usually "the best in the world" is not going to be accessible to average people. Top schools in the USA are open to the best and brightest people from around the world, average people can't compete with that.
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jm20 1y ago

Lol in what world was the US education system the envy of the world? We’ve been routinely clowned for overspending, poor outcomes, university tuition bloat, and everything else under the sun.

searine 1y ago
K-12 and undergraduate are passable. The thing that the US excels at is scale. No other country can match the US academic research environment. Thousands of well funded research institutions. Broad competitive funding opportunities at every school. It was a golden age of knowledge that is being crushed by MAGA.
jasonhong 1y ago
What is the basis for your assertion? Pretty much every list of top universities in the world routinely lists a large number of US universities. For example, in the Shanghai ranking, 16 of the top 20 universities are in the USA. https://www.shanghairanking.com/rankings/arwu/2024 https://www.shanghairanking.com/rankings/arwu/2024 In US News and World reports of top universities, 14 of the top 20 universities in the world are in the USA. https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/ra... In The Times Higher Education ranking, 13 of the top 20 universities in the world are in the USA. https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/latest/world-ranking https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankin... To be blunt, your assertion has extremely weak evidence. I urge you to look at facts and evidence and not your feels.
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tzs 1y ago
> Lol in what world was the US education system the envy of the world? This one. In most rankings of work universities US schools dominate the top of the list. Same when it comes to winning Nobel prizes--8 of the top 10 are in the US (the other 2 are Oxford and Cambridge).
tstrimple 1y ago
You're not wrong. These people are repeating the same inane bullshit about healthcare in the US being the best in the world. Which it arguably is if you're fucking loaded and don't have to care about cost. But it's the furthest thing from the truth for the average citizen. The average citizen has the same shit level of education as they have to healthcare. But since the rich can get the best of both, "our nation" has the best of both regardless of how many fall through the cracks and suffer as a result. The poors should have just played the capitalism game better and they would have been fine I guess. That's what freedom actually means after all.
- ModernMech 1y ago
  > But it's the furthest thing from the truth for the average citizen. Usually "the best in the world" is not going to be accessible to average people. Top schools in the USA are open to the best and brightest people from around the world, average people can't compete with that.
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