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Its not anything about genetically superior foreign students. Its the fact that we take the BEST foreign students, educate them and hopefully capture a % to sta

Its not anything about genetically superior foreign students. Its the fact that we take the BEST foreign students, educate them and hopefully capture a % to stay. We are able to both make America stronger AND everyone else weaker. They also subsidize our schools by paying large sums of cash, at least for the wealthy foreign students.

colingauvin 1y ago
The other half of this coin is that it suppresses graduate student wages. This could be a huge boost to American grad students, potentially.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > other half of this coin is that it suppresses graduate student wages. This could be a huge boost to American grad students, potentially Raising taxes and cutting funding to universities will almost certainly require the graduate-student population to be culled.
  - colingauvin 1y ago
    Well yes, but that's not what this discussion was about.
    - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
      > that's not what this discussion was about Disarticulating the effects is a statistical, not practical nor even potentially empirical, exercise.
commandlinefan 1y ago
> make America stronger Well, there's an argument to be made that importing talent doesn't necessarily make _America_ (or its citizens) stronger, but just the owners of a handful of mostly privately owned American corporations.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > there's an argument to be made that importing talent doesn't necessarily make _America_ (or its citizens) stronger, but just the owners of a handful of mostly privately owned American corporations I can argue that cows are hats, that doesn't mean the evidence [1] supports it. [1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0927537120301330 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S09275...
- const_cast 1y ago
  These people become citizens. There's this distinction people make between American people and then immigrants. Er... no. The immigrants are the American people. My parents were immigrants. Most people I know had parents or grandparents who were immigrants. America, as a whole, is built off the backs of people from not-America. That's our entire thing, we're the melting pot.

colingauvin 1y ago

The other half of this coin is that it suppresses graduate student wages. This could be a huge boost to American grad students, potentially.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> other half of this coin is that it suppresses graduate student wages. This could be a huge boost to American grad students, potentially Raising taxes and cutting funding to universities will almost certainly require the graduate-student population to be culled.
- colingauvin 1y ago
  Well yes, but that's not what this discussion was about.
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > that's not what this discussion was about Disarticulating the effects is a statistical, not practical nor even potentially empirical, exercise.

commandlinefan 1y ago

> make America stronger Well, there's an argument to be made that importing talent doesn't necessarily make _America_ (or its citizens) stronger, but just the owners of a handful of mostly privately owned American corporations.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> there's an argument to be made that importing talent doesn't necessarily make _America_ (or its citizens) stronger, but just the owners of a handful of mostly privately owned American corporations I can argue that cows are hats, that doesn't mean the evidence [1] supports it. [1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0927537120301330 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S09275...
const_cast 1y ago
These people become citizens. There's this distinction people make between American people and then immigrants. Er... no. The immigrants are the American people. My parents were immigrants. Most people I know had parents or grandparents who were immigrants. America, as a whole, is built off the backs of people from not-America. That's our entire thing, we're the melting pot.