> I understand what you're saying, but I hear all the time from AI boosters about how when AGI comes that it will let us do things like discover brand new theor

> I understand what you're saying, but I hear all the time from AI boosters about how when AGI comes that it will let us do things like discover brand new theories, cure diseases, etc. (singularity, blah blah blah). I get that. I do think there are three different levels we must distinguish between when considering this though: 1) What those who are selling AI want us to believe so we buy it 2) What those who are selling AI want 3) What AI actually will do based on its fundamental properties, and the emergent effects of mass human instinct operating on it I was referring more to 3 and tangentially 2, not really to 1, which in my opinion is as relevant as a used car salesman telling you that that used Ford Fiesta in the corner is the most reliable thing you'll buy in the next ten years. > I think a goal of real AI has always been "as smart or smarter than humans", despite what the current reality or limitations of LLMs are. True, I think that's a goal of AI researchers, or at least AI computer scientists like the team who eventually build Deep Blue and similar folk. Though, the goal of the companies today are probably just "build it as good as it gets to get the money".