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There's no escape, is there? I'm not even talking about recycling at this point. If metal cans are plastic-lined inside, is there any way to avoid microplastics

There's no escape, is there? I'm not even talking about recycling at this point. If metal cans are plastic-lined inside, is there any way to avoid microplastics in drinks? I guess glass, but that's exceedingly rare and some drinks don't have a glass option where I live. Mostly it's sugary soda that does, or alcoholic beverages.

hiAndrewQuinn 1y ago
You can just drink water?
- loloquwowndueo 1y ago
  Water destroys bridges and roads, imagine what it would do to your intestines :) (old drunkards joke)
- PinkSheep 1y ago
  drum roll...... bottled water! > In fact, 34 percent of the growth in bottled water sales during the past 11 years (from 2012 to 2023) has come from people switching from soft drinks and fruit drinks to bottled water. U.S. consumers now drink an average of 46.4 gallons (176 liters) of bottled water per person, compared to 34.4 gallons (129 liters) of carbonated soft drinks. -- https://wcponline.com/2024/10/01/2024-state-of-the-bottled-water-industry/ https://wcponline.com/2024/10/01/2024-state-of-the-bottled-w... PS: To be fair, I switched from the (acidic!) soft drinks to tap water. Almost always boiled water. Despite being comparatively confident in the quality of our tap water, the pipes mustn't be great. According to our city's water supplier, the tests come out classifying the water at their end as "soft" (bordering very soft). Yet on our end, there's a lot of chalk build up in the water kettle. I am entertaining the idea to send a sample of the tap water to a lab.
  - tallanvor 1y ago
    My understanding is that soft water is classified as 0-60 mg/L of CaCO₃ equivalent, so there's no such thing as "very soft"). Maybe they're claiming "Moderately hard" is actually soft water?
  - mschuster91 1y ago
    > Yet on our end, there's a lot of chalk build up in the water kettle. That's practically unavoidable, rapid changes in temperature cause the limescale to crash out of solution. Get a water filtration device.
  - altusbrown 1y ago
    If you really want to avoid getting anything in your water - even essential vitamins and minerals - you can always distill your water. It’s worse for you though, much worse. That ‘chalk’ in your carafe is just small amounts of minerals you need anyway that come out of solution. Bottled water has it too. If they build up to the point it’s bothering you, a little vinegar will dissolve them right out.
  - cassianoleal 1y ago
    I live in a hard water area as well. I researched about this, and the best solution is to get a water softener. These are devices that mix salts with the water that break down the limescale minerals. That said, most reputable manufacturers and installers of these devices will recommend you have an unsoftened tap for drinking water. The minerals in the water are actually good for you, and removing them could have deleterious effects on your health. Watering plants is generally best done with unsoftened water as well.
  - Scoundreller 1y ago
    > To be fair, I switched from the (acidic!) soft drinks to tap water. Almost always boiled water. Despite being comparatively confident in the quality of our tap water, the pipes mustn't be great. if you’re making hot drinks, sure, but by boiling, you’re going to concentrate the minerals (and anything else in there that doesn’t like to evaporate, like PFAS)
- cassianoleal 1y ago
  Of course I can, and tap water, filtered or not, constitutes most of my liquid intake. That said, I also like to drink other things every now and then. Sparkling water, kombucha, the eventual beer or cider...
ekianjo 1y ago
Perrier used to sell water in glass bottles. Not sure if it's still a thing
- cassianoleal 1y ago
  Yes, they do. It's not everywhere but I can find them. That's what I mean though, there are alternatives - only fewer and far between. As another user pointed out, even those still probably have plastic in the lid. That's not great, but at least the lid is a very small contact area, whereas a lining of the entire interior of a metal can is about as large as it gets.
owenversteeg 1y ago
I avoid microplastics by drinking only water and wine. I was never really one for other types of beverages, so this isn’t very limiting to me. Keep in mind that any closure other than natural cork contains plastic or other noxious chemicals: in theory there’s also metal, wood, natural waxes and rubbers, but they are rarely used without plastic.

hiAndrewQuinn 1y ago

You can just drink water?

loloquwowndueo 1y ago
Water destroys bridges and roads, imagine what it would do to your intestines :) (old drunkards joke)
PinkSheep 1y ago
drum roll...... bottled water! > In fact, 34 percent of the growth in bottled water sales during the past 11 years (from 2012 to 2023) has come from people switching from soft drinks and fruit drinks to bottled water. U.S. consumers now drink an average of 46.4 gallons (176 liters) of bottled water per person, compared to 34.4 gallons (129 liters) of carbonated soft drinks. -- https://wcponline.com/2024/10/01/2024-state-of-the-bottled-water-industry/ https://wcponline.com/2024/10/01/2024-state-of-the-bottled-w... PS: To be fair, I switched from the (acidic!) soft drinks to tap water. Almost always boiled water. Despite being comparatively confident in the quality of our tap water, the pipes mustn't be great. According to our city's water supplier, the tests come out classifying the water at their end as "soft" (bordering very soft). Yet on our end, there's a lot of chalk build up in the water kettle. I am entertaining the idea to send a sample of the tap water to a lab.
- tallanvor 1y ago
  My understanding is that soft water is classified as 0-60 mg/L of CaCO₃ equivalent, so there's no such thing as "very soft"). Maybe they're claiming "Moderately hard" is actually soft water?
- mschuster91 1y ago
  > Yet on our end, there's a lot of chalk build up in the water kettle. That's practically unavoidable, rapid changes in temperature cause the limescale to crash out of solution. Get a water filtration device.
- altusbrown 1y ago
  If you really want to avoid getting anything in your water - even essential vitamins and minerals - you can always distill your water. It’s worse for you though, much worse. That ‘chalk’ in your carafe is just small amounts of minerals you need anyway that come out of solution. Bottled water has it too. If they build up to the point it’s bothering you, a little vinegar will dissolve them right out.
- cassianoleal 1y ago
  I live in a hard water area as well. I researched about this, and the best solution is to get a water softener. These are devices that mix salts with the water that break down the limescale minerals. That said, most reputable manufacturers and installers of these devices will recommend you have an unsoftened tap for drinking water. The minerals in the water are actually good for you, and removing them could have deleterious effects on your health. Watering plants is generally best done with unsoftened water as well.
- Scoundreller 1y ago
  > To be fair, I switched from the (acidic!) soft drinks to tap water. Almost always boiled water. Despite being comparatively confident in the quality of our tap water, the pipes mustn't be great. if you’re making hot drinks, sure, but by boiling, you’re going to concentrate the minerals (and anything else in there that doesn’t like to evaporate, like PFAS)
cassianoleal 1y ago
Of course I can, and tap water, filtered or not, constitutes most of my liquid intake. That said, I also like to drink other things every now and then. Sparkling water, kombucha, the eventual beer or cider...

ekianjo 1y ago

Perrier used to sell water in glass bottles. Not sure if it's still a thing

cassianoleal 1y ago
Yes, they do. It's not everywhere but I can find them. That's what I mean though, there are alternatives - only fewer and far between. As another user pointed out, even those still probably have plastic in the lid. That's not great, but at least the lid is a very small contact area, whereas a lining of the entire interior of a metal can is about as large as it gets.

owenversteeg 1y ago

I avoid microplastics by drinking only water and wine. I was never really one for other types of beverages, so this isn’t very limiting to me. Keep in mind that any closure other than natural cork contains plastic or other noxious chemicals: in theory there’s also metal, wood, natural waxes and rubbers, but they are rarely used without plastic.