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Can't read the whole thing because paywall. I thought nature was about publishing research. This reads like a political opinion piece but is published as "news
by YZF 1y ago
Can't read the whole thing because paywall.
I thought nature was about publishing research. This reads like a political opinion piece but is published as "news"?
The author has other similar articles like these about the "US brain drain":
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-01540-y https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-01540-y
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-01489-y https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-01489-y
What would help me get an accurate picture is how many conferences are typically held per month in the US and how has that number changed but instead we get fluff like:
"Some meetings have been put on hold" - which meetings?
"Several academic and scientific conferences in the United States have been postponed, cancelled or moved elsewhere" - Which conferences, what % of the total? more specifics?
"Organizers of these meetings say that tougher rules around visas and border control — alongside other policies introduced by US President Donald Trump’s administration — are discouraging international scholars from attending events on US soil. In response, they are moving the conferences to countries such as Canada, in a bid to boost attendance." - Which organizers?
EDIT: I found this resource which would be interesting to examine for trends: https://conferenceindex.org/conferences/science https://conferenceindex.org/conferences/science
EDIT2: there are some specific anecdotal examples towards the bottom of the paywalled article. This is still not meeting what I would consider accurate non-opinionated reporting.
- mgraczyk 1y agoWould you mind explaining where in the article the author gives an opinion, as opposed to stating uncontested facts that would be newsworthy to scientists? Or would you mind sharing a snippet that expressed any political belief of the authors? I could not find either As for your specific questions, they are answered even in the paywalled version. Just keep reading past the first sentence
- YZF 1y ago[flagged]
- 0xdde 1y agoSo no acknowledgement of the fact that your questions are answered even before the paywall? The conferences (and organizers thereof) listed also include International Society for Research on Aggression (ISRA), the International Conference on Comparative Cognition, and then the article goes on to add "The International Association of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy has cancelled its conference, originally planned for August 2025 in Nashville, Tennessee, because cuts to federal funding meant it was “no longer financially viable”. The 2026 Cities on Volcanoes conference in Bend, Oregon, has been postponed to 2030 or 2032. The International X-ray Absorption Society cancelled its upcoming 19th conference in Chicago, Illinois, which was scheduled for July this year. “ Your argument that there is an agenda is not compelling.
- YZF 1y agoYes there are a couple of examples closer to the bottom. I admit to getting stuck in the fluff. FWIW e.g. the IACBT conference was cancelled more than 2 months ago. 2026 Cities on Volcanoes (COV13) was cancelled almost 3 months ago. Having that information would also have been helpful. EDIT: I misread the cancellation date of the COV event, it was last month and not 3 months ago. I still want to know and it wasn't mentioned.
- lazyasciiart 1y agoHelpful how? Stopping you from having a knee jerk political reaction to news of real events?
- YZF 1y agoSo you don't think that whether something happened 3 months ago or yesterday is relevant?
- lazyasciiart 1y agoNo. How about you - did finding out it didn't happen 3 months ago change your kneejerk reaction in some way?
- shusaku 1y ago> I thought nature was about publishing research. This reads like a political opinion piece but is published as "news"? Nature does both: scientific news and scientific literature. > Which conferences, what % of the total? more specifics? This is probably the paywall getting you, because many specific conferences are listed.
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