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Have you actually seen someone write an article like that where one of the instructive steps was "have rich parents"?

ggm 1y ago
No. I have only seen reddit memes and they generally relate to property ownership.
abenga 1y ago
I have seen several. One interesting one was a "how I became an airline pilot at 21" video where the (obviously smart and hard working) young man talked about a life where he went to a high school with an aviation club, interning at an airline while in high school where THE CEO took personal interest in him and gave him one-on-one coaching. "Have rich parents" was not one of the steps explicitly but it was a massive part of the subtext.
- greggsy 1y ago
  Another classic pilot career hack is to have a parent who is a pilot. Simple.
  - 0_____0 1y ago
    My ex's dad flew for a US carrier. I got to hear a bit about how raw a deal new pilots get these days. Apparently it's much less desirable as a job now as commercial aviation works on tighter margins.
    - greggsy 1y ago
      That seems to be the general vibe on the aviation subreddit. Between the glamorous window shots and plane spotting posts are lamentations of pilots struggling with thier routes, and questioning uncertain careers.
- Apocryphon 1y ago
  Pilots talking with each other, what will they think of next!
- 6stringmerc 1y ago
  For those who might eyeroll at this example, I believe it and find it a good citation. Have you done the math on what it costs to get a US commercial aviation license? Just remember, Jack Antonoff (musician turned music producer for acts like St. Vincent) benefitted from his Dad being a millionaire diet supplement multi-level marketing huckster, Taylor Swift’s Dad was (and still is) a Merrill Lynch high earning banker, Redfoo of LmFAO is the son of Barry Gordy…he’ll, even Annie Clark, aka St. Vincent, is the niece of famous guitarist Tuck Andreas. Tell me with a straight face having those connections isn’t a thumb on the roulette wheel and I’ll politely go away for obvious reasons.
  - jryle70 1y ago
    Having rich parent certainly helps. The problem with this line of thinking is that there are many many rich parents, but only one Tailor Swift. What happen to all other rich kids who also dream of being a singer? Can you say, "with straight face", that they can just became Taylor Swift if their dad was a Merrill Lynch banker? There is also one and only Adele, whose father left when she was two and who had a very modest upbringing.
    - TheOtherHobbes 1y ago
      I can say with a straight face that having rich, well-connected parents hugely raises your odds of success if you have some native talent, for obvious reasons - in music you can buy equipment, hire teachers, PR people, and stylists, spend money on recording, and get easy access to industry insiders. You can experiment without worrying that you will starve or be homeless if you fail. Some corners of the arts are full of people like this - some talent, more money, so they get to have "careers" with nothing tangible on the line except loss of face. The family fortune protects them from everything except wilful self-destruction. The obvious corollary is that failing to have rich, well-connected parents hugely lowers your odds of success, even if you have equivalent talent. Some people still succeed, for all kinds of reasons. But the odds are forever not in your favour. It's not a binary, it's a significant tilt of the playing field.
      - 1y ago
notahacker 1y ago
I've seen a lot of articles where it's implicit. There seems to be a whole subgenre of Daily Telegraph "young person buys first house at 25" articles which lead with tales of their thriftiness and aspiration and bury the "parents paid most of the deposit" somewhere in the detail near the end.
-__---____-ZXyw 1y ago
That's the thing, you don't have to say it, sort of by definition. It's always implied, as is its opposite. Imagine a video or article or whatever, titled: "How to get a Mediocre Job and live an Unremarkable Life" Where the content of the article or video was, simply: "Be born a human. You'll have a 99.99% chance of succeeding!" It'd be pretty grim, it'd last about 15s to read or view, so no-one makes that video. Instead, they make videos about becoming pilots at 21, or owning your own house at 23, etc. It's hard to accept these percentages as real, because it's about the opposite of what is presented on the content farm platforms, and that's partly as I said the fact that the story is too grim, but also the fact that the "unremarkable" people are not the ones producing "content".

ggm 1y ago

No. I have only seen reddit memes and they generally relate to property ownership.

I have seen several. One interesting one was a "how I became an airline pilot at 21" video where the (obviously smart and hard working) young man talked about a life where he went to a high school with an aviation club, interning at an airline while in high school where THE CEO took personal interest in him and gave him one-on-one coaching. "Have rich parents" was not one of the steps explicitly but it was a massive part of the subtext.

greggsy 1y ago
Another classic pilot career hack is to have a parent who is a pilot. Simple.
- 0_____0 1y ago
  My ex's dad flew for a US carrier. I got to hear a bit about how raw a deal new pilots get these days. Apparently it's much less desirable as a job now as commercial aviation works on tighter margins.
  - greggsy 1y ago
    That seems to be the general vibe on the aviation subreddit. Between the glamorous window shots and plane spotting posts are lamentations of pilots struggling with thier routes, and questioning uncertain careers.
Apocryphon 1y ago
Pilots talking with each other, what will they think of next!
6stringmerc 1y ago
For those who might eyeroll at this example, I believe it and find it a good citation. Have you done the math on what it costs to get a US commercial aviation license? Just remember, Jack Antonoff (musician turned music producer for acts like St. Vincent) benefitted from his Dad being a millionaire diet supplement multi-level marketing huckster, Taylor Swift’s Dad was (and still is) a Merrill Lynch high earning banker, Redfoo of LmFAO is the son of Barry Gordy…he’ll, even Annie Clark, aka St. Vincent, is the niece of famous guitarist Tuck Andreas. Tell me with a straight face having those connections isn’t a thumb on the roulette wheel and I’ll politely go away for obvious reasons.
- jryle70 1y ago
  Having rich parent certainly helps. The problem with this line of thinking is that there are many many rich parents, but only one Tailor Swift. What happen to all other rich kids who also dream of being a singer? Can you say, "with straight face", that they can just became Taylor Swift if their dad was a Merrill Lynch banker? There is also one and only Adele, whose father left when she was two and who had a very modest upbringing.
  - TheOtherHobbes 1y ago
    I can say with a straight face that having rich, well-connected parents hugely raises your odds of success if you have some native talent, for obvious reasons - in music you can buy equipment, hire teachers, PR people, and stylists, spend money on recording, and get easy access to industry insiders. You can experiment without worrying that you will starve or be homeless if you fail. Some corners of the arts are full of people like this - some talent, more money, so they get to have "careers" with nothing tangible on the line except loss of face. The family fortune protects them from everything except wilful self-destruction. The obvious corollary is that failing to have rich, well-connected parents hugely lowers your odds of success, even if you have equivalent talent. Some people still succeed, for all kinds of reasons. But the odds are forever not in your favour. It's not a binary, it's a significant tilt of the playing field.
    - 1y ago

notahacker 1y ago

I've seen a lot of articles where it's implicit. There seems to be a whole subgenre of Daily Telegraph "young person buys first house at 25" articles which lead with tales of their thriftiness and aspiration and bury the "parents paid most of the deposit" somewhere in the detail near the end.

-__---____-ZXyw 1y ago

That's the thing, you don't have to say it, sort of by definition. It's always implied, as is its opposite. Imagine a video or article or whatever, titled: "How to get a Mediocre Job and live an Unremarkable Life" Where the content of the article or video was, simply: "Be born a human. You'll have a 99.99% chance of succeeding!" It'd be pretty grim, it'd last about 15s to read or view, so no-one makes that video. Instead, they make videos about becoming pilots at 21, or owning your own house at 23, etc. It's hard to accept these percentages as real, because it's about the opposite of what is presented on the content farm platforms, and that's partly as I said the fact that the story is too grim, but also the fact that the "unremarkable" people are not the ones producing "content".