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Fair point. I still think they'd have a shot if they explicitly marketed it as a dual-use work/play device. Here's one way to think about it. The Steam Machi

Fair point. I still think they'd have a shot if they explicitly marketed it as a dual-use work/play device. Here's one way to think about it. The Steam Machine was asking gamers to buy a new device so they can game on their TV. Its failure shows that most Steam users were happy to keep gaming on their PC. But, almost everyone wants to buy a laptop every once in a while. And as long as you're buying a laptop, if you're a gamer, you might as well buy the gaming laptop which is running SteamOS and has really strong gaming compatibility. Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part.

BlueTemplar 1y ago
If you go as far as identify as a "gamer", you will be probably better off with a cheap laptop and a midrange desktop, rather than an expensive laptop that you had to buy all at once, which will age poorly, and which will be heavy and/or thermally limited.
- 0xDEAFBEAD 1y ago
  That's an argument against gaming laptops more generally. But I understand that gaming laptops are fairly popular: >I've been hearing gaming laptop manufacturers tell me for years that gaming laptops are the future or whatever, but now that a laptop GPU is sitting securely at the top of the Steam Hardware Survey, I'm actually starting to believe it. https://www.ign.com/articles/gaming-laptops-are-apparently-more-popular-than-ever https://www.ign.com/articles/gaming-laptops-are-apparently-m...
  - BlueTemplar 1y ago
    Interesting. It's a shame they stopped there and didn't try to compile numbers across models... And I can believe them when a discrete mid-range card being announced for $350 is "relatively cheap": https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/amds-radeon-rx-9060-xt-wants-to-be-the-cheapest-16gb-gpu-on-the-market https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/amds-radeon-rx-9060-xt-want.... But on the other hand 3D-heavy games coming out right now seem to be a combination of poorly optimized and very badly looking on low-end hardware, making ~new gaming laptops less viable too...

BlueTemplar 1y ago

If you go as far as identify as a "gamer", you will be probably better off with a cheap laptop and a midrange desktop, rather than an expensive laptop that you had to buy all at once, which will age poorly, and which will be heavy and/or thermally limited.

0xDEAFBEAD 1y ago
That's an argument against gaming laptops more generally. But I understand that gaming laptops are fairly popular: >I've been hearing gaming laptop manufacturers tell me for years that gaming laptops are the future or whatever, but now that a laptop GPU is sitting securely at the top of the Steam Hardware Survey, I'm actually starting to believe it. https://www.ign.com/articles/gaming-laptops-are-apparently-more-popular-than-ever https://www.ign.com/articles/gaming-laptops-are-apparently-m...
- BlueTemplar 1y ago
  Interesting. It's a shame they stopped there and didn't try to compile numbers across models... And I can believe them when a discrete mid-range card being announced for $350 is "relatively cheap": https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/amds-radeon-rx-9060-xt-wants-to-be-the-cheapest-16gb-gpu-on-the-market https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/amds-radeon-rx-9060-xt-want.... But on the other hand 3D-heavy games coming out right now seem to be a combination of poorly optimized and very badly looking on low-end hardware, making ~new gaming laptops less viable too...