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or god forbid that swill they call la choy An interesting note: La Choy is synthetically fermented (whatever what means!) and is usually the only alcohol-free

or god forbid that swill they call la choy An interesting note: La Choy is synthetically fermented (whatever what means!) and is usually the only alcohol-free option for those with medical or religious restrictions on the consumption of alcohol. Soy sauce is specifically listed as something recovering alcoholics taking Antabuse should avoid [1], though I've read it only rarely triggers any reaction. But there is a sometimes a reason for La Choy! [1] https://advantagetherapy.com.au/the-impact-of-antabuse-on-alcohol-dependency/ https://advantagetherapy.com.au/the-impact-of-antabuse-on-al...

konfusinomicon 1y ago
yikes, antabuse users I'll give a sympathetic pass, but if whatever god one prays to condemns its followers to a life to salty water+caramel coloring condiments, all believers must collectively come together in songs of praise to request a slight rule change.
- teleforce 1y ago
  A tiny amount of alcohol produced through natural fermentation, especially less than 1%, is generally considered permissible or halal. The main verses from the Quran for alcohol intoxicant prohibition come from this verse [1]: O believers! Intoxicants, gambling, idols, and drawing lots for decisions are all evil of Satan’s handiwork. So shun them so you may be successful. And another [2]: They ask you O Prophet about intoxicants and gambling. Say, “There is great evil in both, as well as some benefit for people - but the evil outweighs the benefit. They also ask you O Prophet what they should donate. Say, Whatever you can spare. This is how Allah makes His revelations clear to you believers, so perhaps you may reflect. Fun facts, Surah Al-Maidah name literal meaning is The Table Spread with Food, in reference to the event of the Jesus apostles were asking for ready foods directly from heavens, from God (not Jesus since Islam consider him as one of the prophets sent by God similar to Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses and Muhammad). This particular event is famously known as The Last Supper [3]. [1] Surah Al-Maidah (The Table Spread with Food), verse 90: https://quran.com/al-maidah/90 https://quran.com/al-maidah/90 [2] Surah Al-Baqarah (The Cow), verse 219: https://quran.com/ms/al-baqarah/219 https://quran.com/ms/al-baqarah/219 [3] Last Supper (Section: In Islam): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Supper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Supper
  - konfusinomicon 1y ago
    I suppose we can be greatful MSG wasn't discovered until 1908 and hasn't made it into any holy texts yet, the intoxicating allure of its flavor experience as it may be. if it was any better the gods would have kept it for themselves.
    - teleforce 1y ago
      > if it was any better the gods would have kept it for themselves. Fun facts, in Semite languages namely Arabic, Hebrew and Aramaic (language of Jesus) God is called Allah. This word has no plural meaning, thus God by this very definition is only one. Funny that you mentioned MSG, personally I can detect certain amount of MSG that went into my consumed food by my nose being itchy and uncomfortable. MSG however is not intoxicant to the brain like alcohol, marijuana, meth, etc that badly effect the state of mind immediately. The verse clearly mentioned intoxicant and by extension any new substances that make you lose your mind (temporarily or permanent) is not permissible or haram. This is an excellent video by the health experts if you not yet convinced that any amount of alcohol consumption is bad for human brain and health in general based on published research evidences [1]. [1] Psychiatrist Reveals What Alcohol Actually Does to Your Brain [video]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QWMSLmVVyw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QWMSLmVVyw

konfusinomicon 1y ago

yikes, antabuse users I'll give a sympathetic pass, but if whatever god one prays to condemns its followers to a life to salty water+caramel coloring condiments, all believers must collectively come together in songs of praise to request a slight rule change.

teleforce 1y ago
A tiny amount of alcohol produced through natural fermentation, especially less than 1%, is generally considered permissible or halal. The main verses from the Quran for alcohol intoxicant prohibition come from this verse [1]: O believers! Intoxicants, gambling, idols, and drawing lots for decisions are all evil of Satan’s handiwork. So shun them so you may be successful. And another [2]: They ask you O Prophet about intoxicants and gambling. Say, “There is great evil in both, as well as some benefit for people - but the evil outweighs the benefit. They also ask you O Prophet what they should donate. Say, Whatever you can spare. This is how Allah makes His revelations clear to you believers, so perhaps you may reflect. Fun facts, Surah Al-Maidah name literal meaning is The Table Spread with Food, in reference to the event of the Jesus apostles were asking for ready foods directly from heavens, from God (not Jesus since Islam consider him as one of the prophets sent by God similar to Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses and Muhammad). This particular event is famously known as The Last Supper [3]. [1] Surah Al-Maidah (The Table Spread with Food), verse 90: https://quran.com/al-maidah/90 https://quran.com/al-maidah/90 [2] Surah Al-Baqarah (The Cow), verse 219: https://quran.com/ms/al-baqarah/219 https://quran.com/ms/al-baqarah/219 [3] Last Supper (Section: In Islam): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Supper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Supper
- konfusinomicon 1y ago
  I suppose we can be greatful MSG wasn't discovered until 1908 and hasn't made it into any holy texts yet, the intoxicating allure of its flavor experience as it may be. if it was any better the gods would have kept it for themselves.
  - teleforce 1y ago
    > if it was any better the gods would have kept it for themselves. Fun facts, in Semite languages namely Arabic, Hebrew and Aramaic (language of Jesus) God is called Allah. This word has no plural meaning, thus God by this very definition is only one. Funny that you mentioned MSG, personally I can detect certain amount of MSG that went into my consumed food by my nose being itchy and uncomfortable. MSG however is not intoxicant to the brain like alcohol, marijuana, meth, etc that badly effect the state of mind immediately. The verse clearly mentioned intoxicant and by extension any new substances that make you lose your mind (temporarily or permanent) is not permissible or haram. This is an excellent video by the health experts if you not yet convinced that any amount of alcohol consumption is bad for human brain and health in general based on published research evidences [1]. [1] Psychiatrist Reveals What Alcohol Actually Does to Your Brain [video]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QWMSLmVVyw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QWMSLmVVyw