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I had been considering doing a startup in this space, I thought Humane and rabbit are directionally correct. This kinda makes me want to do it even more, that w

by neom 1y ago

I had been considering doing a startup in this space, I thought Humane and rabbit are directionally correct. This kinda makes me want to do it even more, that would be a fun team to compete against.

kranke155 1y ago
You’d win
- neom 1y ago
  That was both a very very kind and very very mean thing to say. :)
IshKebab 1y ago
The manor criticism of them is that they are just phone apps pointlessly shoved into an extra piece of hardware. What about them do you think was directionally correct? I.e. why not just use your phone?
- neom 1y ago
  "phone" is over - I would just make better devices, there would be a communications device, you could call it a phone or whatever. (Frankly: I just genuinely believe I could do a really good job here is all, I have no real reason to believe that except pure ego, I'm fine admitting that)
  - jazzyjackson 1y ago
    I moved back to a flip phone (sonim xp3+) and love it as a piece of hardware. Built like a stone I could skip. Hold down a number for speed dial. Flip it closed to hang up. I just want a competent personal assistant on speed dial I can talk to in private.
  - samtp 1y ago
    Saying the phone is over because of AI is like saying websites are over because of AI. Frankly, complete nonsense.
    - neom 1y ago
      Nothing to do with AI. Phone is over because the phone is over, AI or not, young people have no interest in telephones and apple are laurels resting. https://www.skygroup.sky/article/call-declined- https://www.skygroup.sky/article/call-declined-
      - askafriend 1y ago
        By that metric, "Phone" has been over the moment iPhone was released. Because it's a computer, not a phone. Its been over for almost 2 decades so not sure what the point of calling that out is.
        neom 1y ago
        Well I wasn't quite old enough to compete in big business then, and even if I was, the smart phone needed to get long enough in the tooth that alternative communication continuities became robust, that time is in and around... now.
      - noir_lord 1y ago
        A device with 96% market share in the developed and developing world, that is also a fashion item, that most adults spend a good chunk of their waking life staring at… is over. I do love HN at times, I really do. In my case smart phones never started, I did and do find the form factor aggravating for everything but phone calls and reading but they aren’t remotely over.
        neom 1y ago
        Over does not mean dead, the fax machine is long over, doesn't mean it's dead. The phone will take a long time to die, but it's certainly over for the phone.
  - coolcase 1y ago
    "Phone as in the protocol" might be over but the idea of a voice only channel for synchronous communication is not. When cars came along the horse was over but the carriage bit is still going strong!
  - jes5199 1y ago
    I agree that “phone” is over but I think it’s possible that “device” is over as well
  - aeternum 1y ago
    My prediction is that "phone" is not over, every lackluster product since the dawn of the iphone has been heralded as an iphone killer. Billions will be spent to realize that screens are useful.

by neom 1y ago

I had been considering doing a startup in this space, I thought Humane and rabbit are directionally correct. This kinda makes me want to do it even more, that would be a fun team to compete against.

kranke155 1y ago

You’d win

neom 1y ago
That was both a very very kind and very very mean thing to say. :)

IshKebab 1y ago

The manor criticism of them is that they are just phone apps pointlessly shoved into an extra piece of hardware. What about them do you think was directionally correct? I.e. why not just use your phone?

neom 1y ago
"phone" is over - I would just make better devices, there would be a communications device, you could call it a phone or whatever. (Frankly: I just genuinely believe I could do a really good job here is all, I have no real reason to believe that except pure ego, I'm fine admitting that)
- jazzyjackson 1y ago
  I moved back to a flip phone (sonim xp3+) and love it as a piece of hardware. Built like a stone I could skip. Hold down a number for speed dial. Flip it closed to hang up. I just want a competent personal assistant on speed dial I can talk to in private.
- samtp 1y ago
  Saying the phone is over because of AI is like saying websites are over because of AI. Frankly, complete nonsense.
  - neom 1y ago
    Nothing to do with AI. Phone is over because the phone is over, AI or not, young people have no interest in telephones and apple are laurels resting. https://www.skygroup.sky/article/call-declined- https://www.skygroup.sky/article/call-declined-
    - askafriend 1y ago
      By that metric, "Phone" has been over the moment iPhone was released. Because it's a computer, not a phone. Its been over for almost 2 decades so not sure what the point of calling that out is.
      - neom 1y ago
        Well I wasn't quite old enough to compete in big business then, and even if I was, the smart phone needed to get long enough in the tooth that alternative communication continuities became robust, that time is in and around... now.
    - noir_lord 1y ago
      A device with 96% market share in the developed and developing world, that is also a fashion item, that most adults spend a good chunk of their waking life staring at… is over. I do love HN at times, I really do. In my case smart phones never started, I did and do find the form factor aggravating for everything but phone calls and reading but they aren’t remotely over.
      - neom 1y ago
        Over does not mean dead, the fax machine is long over, doesn't mean it's dead. The phone will take a long time to die, but it's certainly over for the phone.
- coolcase 1y ago
  "Phone as in the protocol" might be over but the idea of a voice only channel for synchronous communication is not. When cars came along the horse was over but the carriage bit is still going strong!
- jes5199 1y ago
  I agree that “phone” is over but I think it’s possible that “device” is over as well
- aeternum 1y ago
  My prediction is that "phone" is not over, every lackluster product since the dawn of the iphone has been heralded as an iphone killer. Billions will be spent to realize that screens are useful.