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investment is one piece of the puzzle - but you need talent, reasonable cost of living, and a fiscal climate that rewards success instead of sucking any sliver

by jarym 1y ago

investment is one piece of the puzzle - but you need talent, reasonable cost of living, and a fiscal climate that rewards success instead of sucking any sliver of it with onerous taxes. All those factors of course vary throughout the EU but it would be nice if they took a more holistic approach to supporting tech ventures.

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JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> All those factors of course vary throughout the EU but it would be nice if they took a more holistic approach to supporting tech ventures All of those things can be bought. One of Europe’s strategic disadvantages vis-à-vis America and China is low availability of big, risk-taking cheque writers. Fixing that today is worth more than a working group to write a paper about a holistic solution in ten years.
pornel 1y ago
The US is adopting isolationist policies based on a nationalist ideology. The government is run by anti-intellectuals. The US economic policy is based on xitter rants, and flip-flops every week. The fickle vindictive ruler is personally attacking businesses that don't make him look good. It's clear that in the US the path to success is now loyalty. The president runs a memecoin. The EU is getting ready to brain-drain the US.
- underdown 1y ago
  I make 4x in the US what I’d make in Germany.
- ExoticPearTree 1y ago
  > The EU is getting ready to brain-drain the US. It is not going to happen, this is just day-dreaming. Yes, I saw the news, but you can't compare a few tens of people wanting to leave the US for ideological reasons to millions of people that stay in the US because they can fare better and make more money or start new companies overnight because they have a great idea.
- adventured 1y ago
  The US is not adopting isolationist policies. It's adopting more nationalistic policies, which is no different than how China has been running its economy (and politics in general) for decades. And specifically the four year Trump Administration is pursuing heavily nationalistic policies. There's no evidence the Democrats will keep much of Trump's policy direction, as certainly the Biden Admin and Trump Admin could hardly be more different. Let me know where you see the US military pulling back from its global footprint. How many hundreds of global bases has the US begun closing? They're expanding US military spending as usual, not shrinking. The US isn't shuttering its military bases in Europe or Asia. The US is currently trying to expedite an end to the Ukraine v Russia war, so it can pivot all of its resources to the last target standing in the Middle East: Iran. That's anything but isolationist. Also, the US pursuing Greenland and the Panama Canal, is the opposite of isolationist. It's expansionist-nationalistic. It's China-like behavior (Taiwan, Hong Kong, South China Sea, Tibet).
exe34 1y ago
> but you need talent Thankfully the US is making talent flee, hopefully some of those will wash up in the old world.
- nxm 1y ago
  Can you back this up in anything but anecdotes?
  - exe34 1y ago
    Sure thing, thanks for asking! https://www.cityam.com/talent-is-fleeing-trumps-america-and-britain-stands-to-benefit/ https://www.cityam.com/talent-is-fleeing-trumps-america-and-... https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/24/french-university-scientific-asylum-american-talent-brain-drain https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/24/french...
    - WrongAssumption 1y ago
      Sorry, are you under the impression the contents of these articles supports your assertion?
      - exe34 1y ago
        Yes.

by jarym 1y ago

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JumpCrisscross 1y ago

> All those factors of course vary throughout the EU but it would be nice if they took a more holistic approach to supporting tech ventures All of those things can be bought. One of Europe’s strategic disadvantages vis-à-vis America and China is low availability of big, risk-taking cheque writers. Fixing that today is worth more than a working group to write a paper about a holistic solution in ten years.

pornel 1y ago

The US is adopting isolationist policies based on a nationalist ideology. The government is run by anti-intellectuals. The US economic policy is based on xitter rants, and flip-flops every week. The fickle vindictive ruler is personally attacking businesses that don't make him look good. It's clear that in the US the path to success is now loyalty. The president runs a memecoin. The EU is getting ready to brain-drain the US.

underdown 1y ago
I make 4x in the US what I’d make in Germany.
ExoticPearTree 1y ago
> The EU is getting ready to brain-drain the US. It is not going to happen, this is just day-dreaming. Yes, I saw the news, but you can't compare a few tens of people wanting to leave the US for ideological reasons to millions of people that stay in the US because they can fare better and make more money or start new companies overnight because they have a great idea.
adventured 1y ago
The US is not adopting isolationist policies. It's adopting more nationalistic policies, which is no different than how China has been running its economy (and politics in general) for decades. And specifically the four year Trump Administration is pursuing heavily nationalistic policies. There's no evidence the Democrats will keep much of Trump's policy direction, as certainly the Biden Admin and Trump Admin could hardly be more different. Let me know where you see the US military pulling back from its global footprint. How many hundreds of global bases has the US begun closing? They're expanding US military spending as usual, not shrinking. The US isn't shuttering its military bases in Europe or Asia. The US is currently trying to expedite an end to the Ukraine v Russia war, so it can pivot all of its resources to the last target standing in the Middle East: Iran. That's anything but isolationist. Also, the US pursuing Greenland and the Panama Canal, is the opposite of isolationist. It's expansionist-nationalistic. It's China-like behavior (Taiwan, Hong Kong, South China Sea, Tibet).

exe34 1y ago

> but you need talent Thankfully the US is making talent flee, hopefully some of those will wash up in the old world.

nxm 1y ago
Can you back this up in anything but anecdotes?
- exe34 1y ago
  Sure thing, thanks for asking! https://www.cityam.com/talent-is-fleeing-trumps-america-and-britain-stands-to-benefit/ https://www.cityam.com/talent-is-fleeing-trumps-america-and-... https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/24/french-university-scientific-asylum-american-talent-brain-drain https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/24/french...
  - WrongAssumption 1y ago
    Sorry, are you under the impression the contents of these articles supports your assertion?
    - exe34 1y ago
      Yes.