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I really don't want to critisize OP since building stuff for yourself is always a good mentality. But lets be realistic, 1000$ over 10 years is nothing. It wil

• SOLAR_FIELDS 1y ago
  FWIW, I’d be more concerned about the implications of the company having my notes in lieu of the pure cost perspective. But the thing is, you can avoid that entirely too by implementing your own sync
  • para_parolu 1y ago
    And implementing local sync for obsidian is just running on docker container
  • misnome 1y ago
    FWIW unless they are outright lying this is a choice, one of the choices when setting up a vault is E2E that you have to enter whenever setting up a new sync, but they are really clear that if you lose this password you are at the whims of your own backups. They do also publish the “verify the encryption steps” for this. Of course, depending on your threat model this could be insufficient, but then you probably wouldn’t trust obsidian in the first place.
• hartator 1y ago
  I think the author point still stands though: Obsidian won’t probably be here in 20 years.
  • no_wizard 1y ago
    I’m a time traveler from 2046 and I hate to break it to you but it’s still running strong. Couldn’t avoid the computation panic of 2038 but it got by
  • MissTake 1y ago
    Neither solution is guaranteed to stick around for 20 years. As we’ve seen before, it takes one VC investment to change a source available license into something not so friendly and forks are never guaranteed.
  • raesene9 1y ago
    For me that's one of the great points about obsidian's choice of all notes being Markdown. Even if Obsidian vanished tomorrow and the application became unmaintainable, I'd still have all my notes in a text based format.
    • al_borland 1y ago
      I wish all markdown editors just had their markdown files in a simple folder like Obsidian does. I wanted to like Bear, which advertises that it uses markdown. But when I went looking for the files, they were locked away in a database. This was many years ago, so if this has changed, I’d be happy to hear it. I’d love to be able to easily jump between apps, which markdown should allow in theory, but in practice view apps allow for. I don’t find using a text editor to be ideal here as a solution, as I want my notes to look like notes and hide away the syntax when the cursor isn’t on the syntax. Obsidian handles this well, most text editors do not.
  • theappsecguy 1y ago
    Why not? It’s got a huge user base, a massive open source plug-in ecosystem and a sensible revenue model. It’s probably one of the note apps that has the largest community around it outside of Notion, which is heavily VC influenced and is more of a do everything app
  • trinsic2 1y ago
    We'll see. I think there is a chance that it will.
  • poulpy123 1y ago
    But Op's program have even less probability to be here in 20 years
    • williamsss 1y ago
      How?
      • poulpy123 1y ago
        Because it takes time and energy to develop and maintain a software
      • dunefox 1y ago
        Because Obsidian exists, is finished, has a community, and is in use?
  • wiether 1y ago
    One of Obsidian's creators is saying exactly the same actually. https://stephango.com/file-over-app https://stephango.com/file-over-app
• TiredOfLife 1y ago
  Can I have those 1000$ if you think that is nothing?
  • harvey9 1y ago
    Sure, but only in installments over the next 10 years and in exchange I need you to provide a sync service for my notes.
    • komali2 1y ago
      I'll install https://syncthing.net/ https://syncthing.net/ on your computer right now for 100 bucks!
• gr4vityWall 1y ago
  > 1000$ over 10 years is nothing It's a non-trivial amount of money to a lot of people (myself included). I spend way more than that on Free Software, but I'm not throwing money to a proprietary program if I can choose.
• 8fingerlouie 1y ago
  > But lets be realistic, 1000$ over 10 years is nothing Where is the limit ? While $100/year maybe doesn't sound like much, it's hardly the only subscription service you have, and they all add up, from your mail provider, office suite, cloud storage, streaming services, phone bills, internet service, etc. Personally I find $100/year to edit notes on my phone to be a bit much, but then again, I just use iOS Notes. I am so fed up with everything turning into subscriptions, that I've just completely stopped buying things that are subscription based. I understand developers need to make a living, but simply throwing a subscription on top of it won't convince me to buy your product. You convince me by making a compelling product, and by continuously updating it, adding new features, which will convince me to buy another version.
  • al_borland 1y ago
    Personally, I just set myself a budget of $100/month for subscriptions. I was going to drive myself crazy judging every one all the time, so I decided as long as I’m under this threshold I’m not going to stress. I track the ones I have so I can compare the cost, looking at either daily, monthly, or yearly cost. Sorting by price, I can look them over to judge if one of them seems unusually expensive for what it is, and regularly review to see if there are and I’m not using and need to be cancelled. My most expensive is the could backup for my NAS. $8/month is about what I pay for Proton, which offers a lot more than just note syncing. So $8 for notes does seem like a lot. Looking at Obsidian’s pricing page[0], the $8/month is for publishing… hosting a website with your Obsidian data. Just syncing is only $4, and there are many free ways to do it. That part of the article felt like the author was trying to justify writing their own tool due to cost. That doesn’t feel justified, and they were stretching… but the good thing is there doesn’t need to be any financial justification at all. Just make your own tool for the sake of making your own tool. That’s good enough. [0] https://obsidian.md/pricing https://obsidian.md/pricing
  • Sytten 1y ago
    I think that no matter that they do you will always find people complaining. That is humanity's favorite sport. Even when it's free and open source people still complain. Making software for individual consumers is freaking hard. My own perspective as a founder shifted from "this is a viable method to build a sustainable business" to "let's use it as the base for B2B sales, but it is not viable".
• AstroBen 1y ago
  even better: Obsidian is only $480 over 10 years!