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So isn't every other fossil fuel based transportation manf. 20 years ago this would upset me a lot. Now I am resigned to the fact 2 or 3 generations from now
by jmclnx 1y ago
So isn't every other fossil fuel based transportation manf.
20 years ago this would upset me a lot.
Now I am resigned to the fact 2 or 3 generations from now people will live through a time that will make the mongol invasions look like a tea party ran by three 7 year old girls :(
No stopping Climate Change now
- toomuchtodo 1y agoI am hopeful China’s EV, battery, and renewables manufacturing machine steamrolls the world. Developed world fossil fuel and legacy auto will try to slow down the transition, so only overwhelming force solves for it. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/byd-aims-sell-half-its-cars-outside-china-by-2030-sources-say-2025-05-08/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/byd-ai... https://www.iea.org/news/more-than-1-in-4-cars-sold-worldwide-this-year-is-set-to-be-electric-as-ev-sales-continue-to-grow https://www.iea.org/news/more-than-1-in-4-cars-sold-worldwid... https://about.bnef.com/blog/china-already-makes-as-many-batteries-as-the-entire-world-wants/ https://about.bnef.com/blog/china-already-makes-as-many-batt... https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-renewable-energy https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-renewable-energy Current US admin only has 3.6 years left, ~2M voters 55+ age out every year, etc. Maintain momentum, be ready to spin up faster after regime change.
- mulderc 1y agoI have zero interest in an any car from an American company and by far the most exciting cars I have seen in recent years come from Chinese companies.
- alabastervlog 1y agoI’m excited about lower prices from Chinese brands. The hikes in car prices in the US over the last decade or so have priced me out of new cars entirely, and I just about get sick even looking at used car prices these days. Need some price pressure on that crap.
- mulderc 1y agoI’m pretty happy about being able to live in a place where we rarely need to drive. We have a car but basically just use it for grocery shopping. I dread the day it dies as my partner will want to get a new car and our options are going to suck.
- gowings97 1y agoMillennial here, 3x Trump voter. "Current US admin only has 3.6 years left, ~2M voters 55+ age out every year, etc. Maintain momentum, be ready to spin up faster after regime change." The majority of Boomers are liberal - the demographic shift you perceive is not going to work out the way you think it will. Gen-Z is increasingly leaning right, especially males. Most people just want a 2018 era car (there's diminishing returns for vehicle technology at this point and average vehicle selling price trajectory, Post-Covid, is unsustainable) at a decent price - something with a six cylinder engine that can be easy serviced / repaired.
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- pixl97 1y agoSo we shut off cheap EVs from China so American car makers can charge as much as they want without changing their behaviors. America doesn't have competition. You're prices aren't going to get cheaper. Meanwhile in China internal competition in battery chemistry and packs has massively dropped costs. It's sad when the groups we call commies have a more open market than us. Unfortunately we're going to wake up to that too late.
- gowings97 1y agoArbitraging US manufacturing to Asia and pocketing the profit has led to current predicament where we have an economy of healthcare workers, people in software, bartenders/service people barely scraping by, and skeleton crew of blue collar labor holding up domestic manufacturing. That manufacturing labor force makes make vastly lower wages than two generations prior. The vast majority of Americans live paycheck to paycheck - again, this was a labor arbitrage facilitated by US Companies and politicians from both sides. This is where there is a bit of horseshoe effect between the left and right when it comes to labor/jobs/the economy. America is a farm - the US consumer is the product. The only thing that has gotten cheaper over the last few decades are consumer goods from Asia. The US auto industry is more or less an oligopoly - none of the OEMS, outside of Tesla, are seriously interested in competing on price.
- morkalork 1y agoWorse than choosing to do nothing, people chose to fight those who tried to fix it. Everything that happens will be deserved.
- sneak 1y agoCollective punishment was banned by reasonable humans for a reason. Most of the people who will suffer have done nothing wrong.
- ninetyninenine 1y agoWe are all guilty in a way.
- ninetyninenine 1y agoPeople don’t like what you’re saying even when it is the statement most likely to be true.