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Someone just the other day told me about how they used to have a group WhatsApp where they’d share these hand made memes. Just a bunch of guys photoshopping dum

Someone just the other day told me about how they used to have a group WhatsApp where they’d share these hand made memes. Just a bunch of guys photoshopping dumb stuff. It went on for years. One day one of them discovers AI and post anything made with AI - initially it’s great, it’s much better quality than what they could photoshop. Everyone jumps on board. But after a day or so, the joke is over. The love has gone. The whole things falls apart and no-one posts anything anymore. It turns out - as you say - that the meaning - founded on the insight and EFFORT to create it - was more important than the anccuracy and speed.

parodysbird 1y ago
Oh yeah this is exactly how my group chats went. We still can post some good (in our context) memes and have fun, but not like an avalanche of poorly filtered slop. A joke for a group can still be crafted via an LLM when used judiciously and as intentionally as part of the bit. But by judicious it's important that the human is the one doing the sending and in the right moment, and so the human is still the one communicating. When WhatsApp originally inserted their AI bot in the chats, it got very annoying very quickly and we agreed to all never invoke it again. It's just a generative spam machine without the curation.
fennecbutt 1y ago
Do all of you replying to me also weep for expensive hand woven fabrics? You're all wearing the fruits of automatic looms. It's the same thing. You own cars, do you weep for the horse industry? Stables, farriers, blacksmiths, leatherworkers/saddlers, ostlers, grooms, etc. What is an art now becomes a functional ubiquity later. Everything took "insight and effort" because everything was handmade, it's an innate feature. And now those things are mass manufactured and it's what the people want. Humanity will move on to calling whatever current thing we're manually doing an art.
- jonplackett 1y ago
  This is also a pointless comparison. Horses weren’t art. They were a way to get somewhere. The whole problem with AI is it’s trying to automate the things people LIKE to do and take their life meaning from instead of the things that no one likes doing - like pulling a carriage or a plough.
- parodysbird 1y ago
  How is what the same thing? Fabric production vs social communication? I don't really see what is the relation here.

parodysbird 1y ago

Oh yeah this is exactly how my group chats went. We still can post some good (in our context) memes and have fun, but not like an avalanche of poorly filtered slop. A joke for a group can still be crafted via an LLM when used judiciously and as intentionally as part of the bit. But by judicious it's important that the human is the one doing the sending and in the right moment, and so the human is still the one communicating. When WhatsApp originally inserted their AI bot in the chats, it got very annoying very quickly and we agreed to all never invoke it again. It's just a generative spam machine without the curation.

fennecbutt 1y ago

Do all of you replying to me also weep for expensive hand woven fabrics? You're all wearing the fruits of automatic looms. It's the same thing. You own cars, do you weep for the horse industry? Stables, farriers, blacksmiths, leatherworkers/saddlers, ostlers, grooms, etc. What is an art now becomes a functional ubiquity later. Everything took "insight and effort" because everything was handmade, it's an innate feature. And now those things are mass manufactured and it's what the people want. Humanity will move on to calling whatever current thing we're manually doing an art.

jonplackett 1y ago
This is also a pointless comparison. Horses weren’t art. They were a way to get somewhere. The whole problem with AI is it’s trying to automate the things people LIKE to do and take their life meaning from instead of the things that no one likes doing - like pulling a carriage or a plough.
parodysbird 1y ago
How is what the same thing? Fabric production vs social communication? I don't really see what is the relation here.