4 ms·
I hear that noise pollution in Manhattan has gotten better since congestion pricing started. Cities aren't loud; cars are loud.
by david-gpu 1y ago
I hear that noise pollution in Manhattan has gotten better since congestion pricing started.
Cities aren't loud; cars are loud.
- SecretDreams 1y ago> Cities aren't loud; cars are loud. EVs have entered the chat Still, I'd always prefer less cars and more transit.
- david-gpu 1y agoIn my experience, EVs are nearly as loud as IC, as the majority of the noise at typical stroad speeds comes from the tires, not the engine.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> the majority of the noise at typical stroad speeds comes from the tires, not the engine It comes from honking.
- KingMob 1y agoIsn't that mostly applicable to highway speeds? Does tire noise have much of an effect at city speeds?
- tekla 1y agoThe engine noises in cities are generally not a huge problem outside of trucks (or POS cars modified to make noise). The issue that people apparently think that the horn makes the red light turn green faster or will magic away the car blocking the box.
- dogsgobork 1y agoI first heard the phrase used by parent in a video [1] by youtube channel Not Just Bikes, which found EVs to be similar to ICE cars at typical speeds. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8
- Symbiote 1y agoI find EVs noticeably quieter, but the "typical speeds" here in Copenhagen are properly lower than where you live. At 30km/h or so, the main noise is the engine, so EVs are quieter (as the video says).
- nradov 1y agoCars aren't nearly as loud as sirens and garbage trucks. Whenever I stay in a dense city those tend to keep me up at night.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> Cars aren't nearly as loud as sirens and garbage trucks Guess what forces emergency vehicles to fire their sirens, or garbage trucks to linger.
- lazide 1y agobwahaha this is so ridiculous.
- JumpCrisscross 1y agoYou’re really claiming that a congested street isn’t meaningfully more noisy than an uncongested one, including in terms of frequency and duration of horns and sirens?
- lazide 1y agoMore noisy? Of course. But even in nice places like Chelsea - at 2am when there are no cars or congestion at all - the cops/ambulances and garbage trucks have no problem being incredibly noisy.
- SchemaLoad 1y agoWithout cars, emergency vehicles could have their sirens at 10% of the volume. Garbage trucks and busses are slowly being replaced by electric versions which are much quieter.
- nradov 1y agoElectric garbage trucks aren't much quieter. I've heard them. Most of the noise comes from the machinery and the reverse beeping, not the engines.