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I have noticed some resistance to filming in businesses in the US. I've been wearing a camera rig recently to do high-res capture of my shopping for some softwa

I have noticed some resistance to filming in businesses in the US. I've been wearing a camera rig recently to do high-res capture of my shopping for some software we are working on. Since I started the data capture I have been asked to turn my camera off by several different businesses. I wonder how this apparent aversion to filming in some establishments will effect the adoption of google glass and similar products.

sp332 14y ago
I would ask you to turn off your camera out of respect for the other customers. Also, people are less likely to do silly dumb things in a store if they can't show their friends :)
- uncoder0 14y ago
  Agreed. I always turn if off when asked. Do you think there will be an expectation for people to take their Google glasses off in businesses?
  - pavel_lishin 14y ago
    I think that at a certain point, there will be an expectation for businesses to stop asking people to film on their premises. I can't take my wearable computing rig into your store? Guess I'm going to your competitor who doesn't care.
    - danielweber 14y ago
      Or customers will go the store where a dozen busybodies aren't filming them. I don't think any of us know how this will all shake out in the end.
      - pavel_lishin 14y ago
        > Or customers will go the store where a dozen busybodies aren't filming them. You have this option as a customer, but you don't have this option as a person walking around in a public space. > I don't think any of us know how this will all shake out in the end. True, but I'm going to throw my ticket into the "ubiquitous sousveillance" bucket. In the US, at least, a lot of laws would have to change to forbid recording people in public; that's a pretty big barrier to overcome.
      - ktizo 14y ago
        Usually the store is filming you anyway.
        danielweber 14y ago
        Yes, but they have an incentive not to be a dick to me if I trip and fall and land on my ass. Other patrons have no such restraint.
  - shabble 14y ago
    I wonder what might happen if you tried to wear them when going to the cinema to watch a film?
- zck 14y ago
  Alternately, people are less likely to attack others, steal or damage something if they know there's video being taken.
- rdl 14y ago
  I think a lot of "no photography" is because the store doesn't see any upside, and because a lot of photographers are fucking obnoxious while taking photos (taking up lots of space, bumping into people, obstructing traffic, etc.) -- I know I've done the same while trying to get a shot. A smart store would recognize that great photos in e.g. a Yelp review are going to help it. I've never had a problem, even in no-photography-usually areas, if I go to the duty manager and say I'd like to take photos for online review sites, wikipedia, etc.
tjr 14y ago
Some businesses have long had policies against photography, enforced to varying degrees. I was once at a gas station and noticed an increasingly-rare payphone, and whipped out my SLR camera from the backseat to take a picture. As soon as I did, an employee emerged from inside the shop and told me to stop taking pictures. I'm not sure what damage it could have done, but it is their own private property, so they have that right. I could have elected to stand on the public sidewalk and take a picture of the payphone with a 400mm lens, but I just wasn't that interested.
- SideburnsOfDoom 14y ago
  > I'm not sure what damage it could have done, but it is their own private property, so they have that right. TFA draws a distinction between cameras and assisted vision systems. It's like asking people to remove hearing aids because no sound recording is allowed. That "right" is going to become unenforceable as technologies like this and google glass become more common.
- joezydeco 14y ago
  I'd expect this to become more commonplace as stores fight the "showrooming" trend. Customers walk into stores, try things out, then snap a picture of the barcode to compare to the Amazon price.
Jemm 14y ago
I use a small rectangular scope to help me read menus at take away restaurants and have learned to hide the device because it make people very uncomfortable despite not being a camera.

sp332 14y ago

I would ask you to turn off your camera out of respect for the other customers. Also, people are less likely to do silly dumb things in a store if they can't show their friends :)

uncoder0 14y ago
Agreed. I always turn if off when asked. Do you think there will be an expectation for people to take their Google glasses off in businesses?
- pavel_lishin 14y ago
  I think that at a certain point, there will be an expectation for businesses to stop asking people to film on their premises. I can't take my wearable computing rig into your store? Guess I'm going to your competitor who doesn't care.
  - danielweber 14y ago
    Or customers will go the store where a dozen busybodies aren't filming them. I don't think any of us know how this will all shake out in the end.
    - pavel_lishin 14y ago
      > Or customers will go the store where a dozen busybodies aren't filming them. You have this option as a customer, but you don't have this option as a person walking around in a public space. > I don't think any of us know how this will all shake out in the end. True, but I'm going to throw my ticket into the "ubiquitous sousveillance" bucket. In the US, at least, a lot of laws would have to change to forbid recording people in public; that's a pretty big barrier to overcome.
    - ktizo 14y ago
      Usually the store is filming you anyway.
      - danielweber 14y ago
        Yes, but they have an incentive not to be a dick to me if I trip and fall and land on my ass. Other patrons have no such restraint.
- shabble 14y ago
  I wonder what might happen if you tried to wear them when going to the cinema to watch a film?
zck 14y ago
Alternately, people are less likely to attack others, steal or damage something if they know there's video being taken.
rdl 14y ago
I think a lot of "no photography" is because the store doesn't see any upside, and because a lot of photographers are fucking obnoxious while taking photos (taking up lots of space, bumping into people, obstructing traffic, etc.) -- I know I've done the same while trying to get a shot. A smart store would recognize that great photos in e.g. a Yelp review are going to help it. I've never had a problem, even in no-photography-usually areas, if I go to the duty manager and say I'd like to take photos for online review sites, wikipedia, etc.

tjr 14y ago

Some businesses have long had policies against photography, enforced to varying degrees. I was once at a gas station and noticed an increasingly-rare payphone, and whipped out my SLR camera from the backseat to take a picture. As soon as I did, an employee emerged from inside the shop and told me to stop taking pictures. I'm not sure what damage it could have done, but it is their own private property, so they have that right. I could have elected to stand on the public sidewalk and take a picture of the payphone with a 400mm lens, but I just wasn't that interested.

SideburnsOfDoom 14y ago
> I'm not sure what damage it could have done, but it is their own private property, so they have that right. TFA draws a distinction between cameras and assisted vision systems. It's like asking people to remove hearing aids because no sound recording is allowed. That "right" is going to become unenforceable as technologies like this and google glass become more common.
joezydeco 14y ago
I'd expect this to become more commonplace as stores fight the "showrooming" trend. Customers walk into stores, try things out, then snap a picture of the barcode to compare to the Amazon price.

Jemm 14y ago

I use a small rectangular scope to help me read menus at take away restaurants and have learned to hide the device because it make people very uncomfortable despite not being a camera.