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by alabastervlog 1y ago

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naasking 1y ago
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- alabastervlog 1y ago
  2024/06/28 DOGE got ahold of Obama's time machine? What people expect is a connection between the claims of fraud and the massive cuts, funding pauses (which effectively destroy some research, wasting any money already spent), and disruptive reorganizations. The claim is that DOGE is uncovering so very much fraud all over the place, that you practically can't enter a government office without tripping over fraud. Where's all this fraud, justifying such extreme measures? They say they found it! Where are the indictments? Where are the investigations? There should be lots of them. ... unless they're lying.
  - naasking 1y ago
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    - alabastervlog 1y ago
      [EDIT: The way I wrote this was mean, and why be mean? Rephrasing to be less mean: I reviewed the thread and found your claim to be inaccurate] Yeah, that's enough of this for one day.
      - naasking 1y ago
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        alabastervlog 1y ago
        The root post of this thread was concerned with the effects of, "The Trump admins cuts", as is TFA. I think I see what you mean, however: that your original post in this thread could be read as setting that aside and treating of just the sub-topic of whether there's any fraud in science (of course there's some). However, the post I responded to (not your post, to be clear) mentioned DOGE by name: "I have yet to see any real evidence of fraud from the DOGE reports" (to be fair to that poster, I think they read your "why do think so much fraud has been uncovered lately?" as being about that, given the context of the thread, and as the most prominent claims of fraud in general and, specifically, in government funding of science lately have been from DOGE and friends, though evidently that's not what you meant). Between that, TFA, and the root of the thread, I hope you can see why I bristled a bit at being accused of being "the only person talking about DOGE in this thread", given that I was responding to a post that mentioned them by name, and that it's, more-or-less, also the topic of TFA and the root post of this thread. I do empathize with your being exhausted with the topic of Trump/DOGE, but would suggest that this is maybe not a good thread to expect to avoid it in, given the topic of the linked article.
seanmcdirmid 1y ago
It is what we used to call FUD. Like parent says, it never gets near a prosecutor, even a prosecutor "on their side" in a state with a judiciary "on their side" because we still have the semblance of rule of law in this country. DOGE makes a claim, and it sticks permanently into Trump-supporter minds, never mind that they quietly walk it back a few weeks later or it never makes it to the DOJ.

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naasking 1y ago

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alabastervlog 1y ago
2024/06/28 DOGE got ahold of Obama's time machine? What people expect is a connection between the claims of fraud and the massive cuts, funding pauses (which effectively destroy some research, wasting any money already spent), and disruptive reorganizations. The claim is that DOGE is uncovering so very much fraud all over the place, that you practically can't enter a government office without tripping over fraud. Where's all this fraud, justifying such extreme measures? They say they found it! Where are the indictments? Where are the investigations? There should be lots of them. ... unless they're lying.
- naasking 1y ago
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  - alabastervlog 1y ago
    [EDIT: The way I wrote this was mean, and why be mean? Rephrasing to be less mean: I reviewed the thread and found your claim to be inaccurate] Yeah, that's enough of this for one day.
    - naasking 1y ago
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      - alabastervlog 1y ago
        The root post of this thread was concerned with the effects of, "The Trump admins cuts", as is TFA. I think I see what you mean, however: that your original post in this thread could be read as setting that aside and treating of just the sub-topic of whether there's any fraud in science (of course there's some). However, the post I responded to (not your post, to be clear) mentioned DOGE by name: "I have yet to see any real evidence of fraud from the DOGE reports" (to be fair to that poster, I think they read your "why do think so much fraud has been uncovered lately?" as being about that, given the context of the thread, and as the most prominent claims of fraud in general and, specifically, in government funding of science lately have been from DOGE and friends, though evidently that's not what you meant). Between that, TFA, and the root of the thread, I hope you can see why I bristled a bit at being accused of being "the only person talking about DOGE in this thread", given that I was responding to a post that mentioned them by name, and that it's, more-or-less, also the topic of TFA and the root post of this thread. I do empathize with your being exhausted with the topic of Trump/DOGE, but would suggest that this is maybe not a good thread to expect to avoid it in, given the topic of the linked article.

seanmcdirmid 1y ago

It is what we used to call FUD. Like parent says, it never gets near a prosecutor, even a prosecutor "on their side" in a state with a judiciary "on their side" because we still have the semblance of rule of law in this country. DOGE makes a claim, and it sticks permanently into Trump-supporter minds, never mind that they quietly walk it back a few weeks later or it never makes it to the DOJ.