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Russia did meddle in the elections to trumps benefit, but that’s not the “only” reason. A coup attempt does not require military involvement. Though there wer

Russia did meddle in the elections to trumps benefit, but that’s not the “only” reason. A coup attempt does not require military involvement. Though there were members of small paramilitary groups present there. If your post requires a throwaway account, you already know it’s wrong.

throw310822 1y ago
> Russia did meddle in the elections to trumps benefit, but that’s not the “only” reason. So the talks of "Russian asset" and "elected thanks to Russia" are conspiracy theories, right? > A coup attempt does not require military involvement A coup is the taking over of the government by groups (military, political, institutional) that are prepared and organised to do so. When violent protesters invade a government building, it's a violent protest. > If your post requires a throwaway account, you already know it’s wrong. It's not a throwaway account.
- lyu07282 1y ago
  > So the talks of "Russian asset" and "elected thanks to Russia" are conspiracy theories, right? They are, but to be fair to democrats, this blueanon nonsense mostly went away, while republicans still hold on to all their conspiracy theories. When Trump lost it was a stolen election, when Clinton lost it was Russian hackers.
  - hydrogen7800 1y ago
    >When Trump lost it was a stolen election, when Clinton lost it was Russian hackers. And an important distinction here: Those attributing Clinton's loss to Russian hackers are referring to Russian propaganda efforts to influence the decisions of voters, not that Russia actually tampered with the vote tallies. Those who believe the stolen 2020 election theory believe that the votes were actually tampered with. One of these has ample evidence, the other has none.
  - throw310822 1y ago
    I agree that many right-wing conspiracy theories are completely unhinged, while the corresponding left-wing ones are merely wild exaggerations. On the flip side, the unhinged theories remain mostly fringe, while the wild exaggerations are repeated as well-known facts by most mainstream media. See the assault to the Congress made by a few hundred nobodies, now normally claimed to have been nothing less than a "coup attempt".

throw310822 1y ago

> Russia did meddle in the elections to trumps benefit, but that’s not the “only” reason. So the talks of "Russian asset" and "elected thanks to Russia" are conspiracy theories, right? > A coup attempt does not require military involvement A coup is the taking over of the government by groups (military, political, institutional) that are prepared and organised to do so. When violent protesters invade a government building, it's a violent protest. > If your post requires a throwaway account, you already know it’s wrong. It's not a throwaway account.

lyu07282 1y ago
> So the talks of "Russian asset" and "elected thanks to Russia" are conspiracy theories, right? They are, but to be fair to democrats, this blueanon nonsense mostly went away, while republicans still hold on to all their conspiracy theories. When Trump lost it was a stolen election, when Clinton lost it was Russian hackers.
- hydrogen7800 1y ago
  >When Trump lost it was a stolen election, when Clinton lost it was Russian hackers. And an important distinction here: Those attributing Clinton's loss to Russian hackers are referring to Russian propaganda efforts to influence the decisions of voters, not that Russia actually tampered with the vote tallies. Those who believe the stolen 2020 election theory believe that the votes were actually tampered with. One of these has ample evidence, the other has none.
- throw310822 1y ago
  I agree that many right-wing conspiracy theories are completely unhinged, while the corresponding left-wing ones are merely wild exaggerations. On the flip side, the unhinged theories remain mostly fringe, while the wild exaggerations are repeated as well-known facts by most mainstream media. See the assault to the Congress made by a few hundred nobodies, now normally claimed to have been nothing less than a "coup attempt".