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We can no longer run Microsoft Store on 1809/LTSC 2019
- thangngoc89 1y agoFYI: 1809/LTSC 2019 refer to the long term support build of Windows 10. Took me a while to figure this out.
- lousken 1y agodoes it mean winget will stop working as well?
- SSLy 1y agoonly for the msstore hosted stuff, repo should be fine
- doublerabbit 1y agoSounds more like a blessing than a curse.
- jandrese 1y agoEspecially on LTSC hosts. I had a very Jeremy Clarkson "Oh no! Anyway..." moment reading the headline.
- steelbrain 1y agoIn Windows terminology LTSC = Long-Term Servicing Channel which is similar to Ubuntu, Node.js etc calling it it LTS = Long Term Support
- nodja 1y agoIt's more than that, or in this case, less. This is a build of windows targeting long term deployments and embedded system, so it's essentially a pared down version of windows to reduce memory requirements. One of those things is the microsoft store which is often needed to install certain apps without having to mess around with the command line, etc.
- CamperBob2 1y agoOh no! Anyway
- Demiurge 1y ago[flagged]
- notpushkin 1y agoMicrosoft <3 Open Source! (but only if they can make money on it)
- redundantly 1y agoMicrosoft EEEs Open Source.
- dehrmann 1y agoHow many major distros support releases for 6 years?
- flmontpetit 1y agoFrom a quick search, Ubuntu LTS releases are supported for 5 years as a baseline, and Ubuntu Pro goes up to 12 years. RHEL releases are supported for 10 years. I'm guessing it's similar with SUSE and other "business" distros.
- carlwgeorge 1y agoUbuntu Pro and RHEL are both 10 years for their standard lifecycle, with optional add-ons to go longer. Ubuntu's is called "Legacy Support" to get an extra 2 years, RHEL's is called "Extended Life-cycle Support" to get an extra 3-4 years. https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle#server-desktop-eol-old https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle#server-desktop-eol-ol... https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata#Life_Cycle_Dates https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata#Life...
- Demiurge 1y agoI was wondering how many people would take my comment seriously. Looks like at least 5 people.
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- Havoc 1y agoHonestly if I never see MS store again I’ll consider it a win. Had plenty frustrating experiences with it and very positives
- bradford 1y agoWhy is a repository called 'Microsoft Store' being hosted on a seemingly random github account? Why doesn't the README file explain what this repository is doing? OP, what did you hope to accomplish with this submission? The lack of support on LTSC is the least baffling thing going on here but I'm open to the possibility that I'm misunderstanding something....
- sgjohnson 1y ago> Why doesn't the README file explain what this repository is doing? It explains exactly what it's doing. "Microsoft Store package for Windows LTSC." It provides a Microsoft Store package for LTSC builds, and an install script that allows it to actually work. Windows LTSC builds don't have Microsoft Store preinstalled, and Microsoft offers no official way to re-enable it.
- lp0_on_fire 1y agoI don't think there's anything nefarious going on here but to someone just quickly looking over the page it has the impression of being an official Microsoft project, given the gratuitous use of their trademark and zero mention of it being a "community" effort.
- bradford 1y agoOk, but the brief README links to an actual microsoft.com domain (https://www.microsoft.com/store https://www.microsoft.com/store). Why would you need a package to wrap a website? Wouldn't the website be accessible on a LTSC build, even if the official package isn't available? If this is filling a highly useful role that I'm admittedly oblivious to, why are there only three commits in the project history? (Best I can tell, this is a personal project that somehow made it to HN front page)
- nodja 1y agoThe store is also an app on windows and is sometimes an hard dependency to install apps that only exist on the windows store without having to jump through many hoops. It's usually part of windows itself in the regular retail builds of windows, but LTSC which is meant for enterprise and embedded system does not include it. Installing it is not straightforward which is what this repo provides. There's no source code, it's a just a bunch of binaries and an install/uninstall script. Edit: I should clarify that the link provided in the repo is not the microsoft store that the apps refer to. This would be a better link https://apps.microsoft.com https://apps.microsoft.com
- bongodongobob 1y agoYeah, you're on LTSC. The only reason you should be using it is because you have a critical app that requires it for some reason, not the app store.
- sgjohnson 1y agoOr you run it because you don't want all the bloat that Windows comes with by default... My gaming PC runs Windows 11 LTSC.
- DrillShopper 1y agoI considered that on my new gaming PC, but I installed Arch and it plays every game that I care about just fine.
- throitallaway 1y agoI have a dedicated Windows 11 gaming laptop and I'm about at my breaking point of putting another drive in it to test out the games that I care about on Linux. Windows was tolerable to use just for gaming, but the hoops that you have to go through to do some things in Windows are ridiculous. Removing the Game Bar (and stopping Windows from bugging you about it afterwards) is way more difficult than it should be. Also the driver update ping-pong that happens with my Intel video card is maddening. I'll have the driver fully updated and functional, then Windows Update periodically decides to downgrade it to one that's ~2 years old (which breaks stuff.)
- jerf 1y agoIf you're using steam, the ProtonDB website [1] has a feature where you can easily hook it up to your Steam account and get a full accounting of your entire collection on one screen. I don't want to overpromise anything, but ProtonDB is if anything conservative; I find things working better than expected more often than I am disappointed by a listing now. Games with heavy anti-cheat for online multiplayer are often not a good bet, and really old stuff is sometimes not very well supported (although even so, surprisingly well), but Linux gaming quietly snuck up when nobody was looking and one step at a time has become something where I fairly casually just expect games to work in Linux now, without me having to do much more than poke Steam to use Proton manually sometimes. [1]: https://www.protondb.com/ https://www.protondb.com/
- throitallaway 1y agoMicrosoft has jumped the shark with the way they're pushing their apps through this. It recently took me ~15 minutes of figuring out how to install the Windows Terminal on a newish version of Windows Server. Visiting Microsoft's website to download it was fruitless; the Github releases page was where I needed to be.
- ghostagw 1y agoThe Microsoft Store is not included as a component in Windows 10 LTSC 2019. This is because the LTSC branch is designed for specialized use cases rather than general-purpose computing. While LTSC 2019 maintains support until 2029, the Microsoft Store remains external to this ecosystem and is fundamentally unrelated to the LTSC version.