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This is kind of a weird hill to die on, but you’re well within your rights, so you do you. However, it is clearly not correct to say that you were banned from
by LadyCailin 1y ago
This is kind of a weird hill to die on, but you’re well within your rights, so you do you.
However, it is clearly not correct to say that you were banned from GitHub. It’s like saying “I was banned from Google because I refuse to use computing devices.”
Not really a ban, just self flagellation, which, again, whatever works for you.
- immibis 1y agoGive me your social security number or you may not reply to my comments. If you don't give me your social security number, choosing instead to die on this weird hill, it's not correct to say you're banned - you're merely self-flagellating.
- LadyCailin 1y agoA phone number given to a generally reputable company is hardly equivalent to giving a rando your social security number. I mean, obviously you disagree with them being generally reputable, but you must realize that’s not a broad opinion, and they are certainly better at preventing data breaches than the average company that stores phone numbers. Sincerely though, I hope you get your GDPR request sorted.
- fsflover 1y ago> generally reputable company Are you talking about Microsoft here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft#Controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft#Controversies
- LadyCailin 1y agoHence the qualifier “generally”. I’m not saying they’re above reproach, but I am saying that companies that care far less about data security already have my phone number, such as most/all of my utilities - including my phone company. And those aren’t realistically optional.
- fsflover 1y ago> companies that care far less about data security already have my phone number ... including my phone company. Far less than these? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40592789 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40592789 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12305598 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12305598 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Microsoft#Privacy_issues https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Microsoft#Privacy... This is unlikely.
- Dylan16807 1y agoThe bar is a lot lower than you think.
- fsflover 1y agoTell me more. Meanwhile: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43993076 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43993076
- baobun 1y ago> but I am saying that companies that care far less about data security already have my phone number Not mine and it sucks that this means I'm not welcome as FireFox contributor anymore unless I move countries just to register a monthly contract for a dedicated GitHub-accepted SIM card. Once you trigger phone-number verification requirement your account is globally shadowbanned and support blocked pending SMS code verification. Aside from the privacy issue it's completely blocking people in the several countries (beyond the ones offially totally banned due to sanctions) to which GitHub won't even try to SMS/call. Remember that registering a second account would be violating GitHub ToS.
- GabrielTFS 1y agoThis seems like a poor argument. I don't like much either having the obligation to give GitHub my phone number, but it's not the same thing as a social security number, now is it ? Would you argue otherwise ?
- baobun 1y agoNot US but phone number is arguably worse: You can't legally get one without tying it to govt ID anymore and tends to be tied to your current physical location.
- IIsi50MHz 1y agoAnd is commonly used for authentication codes, and like Social Security Number, it is PII that should be default-deny. Github seems to have no legit need for a user's phone number. Since there's not even a way to tell them to go pound sand, I'd say opting out of disclosing sensitive information they don't need by not signing in/up and equating their unreasonable demand with a ban is respectable.
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