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The US is the global outlier here and it's in the face of the evidence. The number of PAs globally is plummeting as they're abolished by national authorities.

nradov 1y ago
Nah. Total PA numbers are increasing in many other developed countries as well, including Canada and much of Europe. We can have a discussion about whether this is a good idea, but first you need to stop lying and making things up. https://capa-acam.ca/pa-profession/pa-facts https://capa-acam.ca/pa-profession/pa-facts https://www.srh-university.de/de/folder/news/2025/04-25/erstes-fachbuch-ueber-physician-assistants-in-deutschland-erschienen/ https://www.srh-university.de/de/folder/news/2025/04-25/erst... https://www.bigregister.nl/over-het-big-register/cijfers/verloop-over-5-jaar https://www.bigregister.nl/over-het-big-register/cijfers/ver...
- closewith 1y ago
  The only country in Europe where PAs made any significant inroads was the UK, where their most significant role has been abolished. In Germany and all other countries, PAs are unable to treat patients without direct oversight and they are single digit percentages compared to NPs. It's clear you have no experience in this area, so I wonder why the need to comment at all?
  - nradov 1y ago
    PAs have to practice under some level of physician oversight pretty much everywhere. That part was never in dispute. But they can offload physicians for some routine primary care cases where a real doctor isn't needed. The data clearly shows that PA numbers continue increasing in many countries, so obviously they don't consider it a failed experiment and you're just lying to push some kind of personal agenda. It's clear you have no experience in this area, so I wonder why the need to comment at all?
bawana 1y ago
We are the global outlier because it costs an arm and a leg to go to college and medical school. In the rest of the world the education is free/ still affordable. And thats why all the young doctors are also imports.
- closewith 1y ago
  No, it's because the role played by PAs is performed by the much more capable and clinically proven NPs and community paramedics.

nradov 1y ago

Nah. Total PA numbers are increasing in many other developed countries as well, including Canada and much of Europe. We can have a discussion about whether this is a good idea, but first you need to stop lying and making things up. https://capa-acam.ca/pa-profession/pa-facts https://capa-acam.ca/pa-profession/pa-facts https://www.srh-university.de/de/folder/news/2025/04-25/erstes-fachbuch-ueber-physician-assistants-in-deutschland-erschienen/ https://www.srh-university.de/de/folder/news/2025/04-25/erst... https://www.bigregister.nl/over-het-big-register/cijfers/verloop-over-5-jaar https://www.bigregister.nl/over-het-big-register/cijfers/ver...

closewith 1y ago
The only country in Europe where PAs made any significant inroads was the UK, where their most significant role has been abolished. In Germany and all other countries, PAs are unable to treat patients without direct oversight and they are single digit percentages compared to NPs. It's clear you have no experience in this area, so I wonder why the need to comment at all?
- nradov 1y ago
  PAs have to practice under some level of physician oversight pretty much everywhere. That part was never in dispute. But they can offload physicians for some routine primary care cases where a real doctor isn't needed. The data clearly shows that PA numbers continue increasing in many countries, so obviously they don't consider it a failed experiment and you're just lying to push some kind of personal agenda. It's clear you have no experience in this area, so I wonder why the need to comment at all?

bawana 1y ago

We are the global outlier because it costs an arm and a leg to go to college and medical school. In the rest of the world the education is free/ still affordable. And thats why all the young doctors are also imports.

closewith 1y ago
No, it's because the role played by PAs is performed by the much more capable and clinically proven NPs and community paramedics.