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Humans can be held accountable. Machines can't. AI dilutes responsibility.
by userbinator 1y ago
Humans can be held accountable. Machines can't. AI dilutes responsibility.
- kevmo314 1y agoAI didn't bring anything new to the table, this is a human problem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0YGZPycMEU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0YGZPycMEU
- whilenot-dev 1y agoGenAI absolutely brings something new to the table! These models should be perceived as human-like intelligence when it's time to bring value to shareholders, but are designed to provide just enough non-determinism to avoid responsibilities. All problems are human and nothing will ever change that. Just imagine the effects anyone is facing when being affected by something like the British Post Office scandal[0], only this time it's impossible to comprehend any faults in the software system. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal
- tbrownaw 1y agoHow fortunate that AIs are tools operated by humans, and can't cause worse responsibility issues than when a human employee is required to blindly follow a canned procedure.
- whilenot-dev 1y agoI can't tell if this is sarcasm... GenAI interfaces are rolled out as chat products to end users, they just evaporate this last responsibility that remains on any human employee. This responsiblity shift from employee to end user is made on purpose, "worse responsibility issues" are real and well designed to be on the customer side.
- eWeSaYYY 1y ago[dead]
- andrewmutz 1y agoWhat do you mean held accountable? No HR human is going to jail for overlooking your resume. If you mean that a human can be fired when they overlook a resume, an AI system can be be similarly rejected and no longer used.
- drivingmenuts 1y agoYou cannot punish an AI - it has no sense of ethics or morality, nor a conscience. An AI cannot be made to feel shame. You cannot punish an AI for transgressing. A person can be held responsible, even when it's indirect responsibility, in a way that serves as a warning to others, to avoid certain behaviors. It just seems wrong to allow machines to make decisions affecting humans, when those machines are incapable of experiencing the the world as a human being does. And yet, people are eager to offload the responsibility onto machines, to escape responsibility themselves.
- SoftTalker 1y agoHumans making the decision to use AI need to be responsible for what the AI does, in the way that the owner/operator of a car is responsible for what the car does.
- userbinator 1y ago"Humans" is the problem. There's one driver in a car, but likely far more than one human deciding to use AI, so who takes responsibility for it?
- SoftTalker 1y agoIf there's more than one possiblity, then their boss. Or the boss's boss. Or the CEO, ultimately.
- locopati 1y agoHumans can be held accountable when they discriminate against groups of people. Try holding a company accountable for that when they're using an AI system.
- djoldman 1y agoAt least in the work setting, employers are generally liable for stuff in the workplace: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicarious_liability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicarious_liability
- jkuli 1y ago[flagged]
- userbinator 1y agoCompanies are doing it right now. Self-driving cars, AI, you name it.
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