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This is just to serve as a reminder of who actually "owns" your computer. Overwhelmingly, people who speak in favor of windows, grew up using it. It's like the

by johnea 1y ago

This is just to serve as a reminder of who actually "owns" your computer. Overwhelmingly, people who speak in favor of windows, grew up using it. It's like the indoctrination of any religous cult, it works best when you start young. One has to wonder when the world will recover from windoze brain damage...

IcyWindows 1y ago
Is that really any different than those that grew up with a Mac?
- jolmg 1y ago
  It's not a Windows vs Mac thing. It's using closed-source software vs open-source, i.e. Windows & Mac vs Linux et al.
  - johnea 1y ago
    This is highlighted by how many different types of user interface environments are implemented in free s/w platforms, vs the monoculture user interfaces of proprietary OSes. The resultant windoze brain damage is a co-mingling of "you don't know what you don't know", lack of awareness of just how varied computer interfaces could be, with the "child indoctrination" aspect that nothing else seems quite right when it's not what you were raised on. After my first programming experiences, on a TRS-80 in the mall radio shack in the late '70s, I was exposed to a variety of user interfaces, but eventually became locked into windows myself, mostly from employer enforcement. The thing that drove me away in the end was the way various settings were moved around with each new release, and the way my workflow had to constantly adapt to arbitrary changes in the user interface with each revision. After exploring a wide variety of desktop environments, I've been on fluxbox window manager for many years now and I'm still quite satisfied. All of my configuration options are in my home directory, and my user interface experience is recreated without incident when updating, and even when moving to new h/w. But the monoculture is wide spread, and continues to inhibit computer innovation outside of what will benefit the mothership...
- johnea 1y ago
  Really only as a matter of scale. The main vendor locking practice of M$, has been to cut deals w/ h/w makers to preinstall windoze on their new computers. This caused many many more people to face childhood indoctrination into windoze than into macOS. Tangentially, over many years apple was a less malicious company than M$, but that advantage has waned in recent years.
pndy 1y ago
> It's like the indoctrination of any religous cult Heh; sister in grade school for her computer class was given a pamphlet where she and her classmates could learn how to become web surfers with IE, how to write a blog with WL Writer and how cool is SkyDrive for saving your files.
userbinator 1y ago
I was in favour of Windows until it reached a peak and then rapid decline. MS was nowhere near as hostile towards its users in the past than it is now.

by johnea 1y ago

IcyWindows 1y ago

Is that really any different than those that grew up with a Mac?

jolmg 1y ago
It's not a Windows vs Mac thing. It's using closed-source software vs open-source, i.e. Windows & Mac vs Linux et al.
- johnea 1y ago
  This is highlighted by how many different types of user interface environments are implemented in free s/w platforms, vs the monoculture user interfaces of proprietary OSes. The resultant windoze brain damage is a co-mingling of "you don't know what you don't know", lack of awareness of just how varied computer interfaces could be, with the "child indoctrination" aspect that nothing else seems quite right when it's not what you were raised on. After my first programming experiences, on a TRS-80 in the mall radio shack in the late '70s, I was exposed to a variety of user interfaces, but eventually became locked into windows myself, mostly from employer enforcement. The thing that drove me away in the end was the way various settings were moved around with each new release, and the way my workflow had to constantly adapt to arbitrary changes in the user interface with each revision. After exploring a wide variety of desktop environments, I've been on fluxbox window manager for many years now and I'm still quite satisfied. All of my configuration options are in my home directory, and my user interface experience is recreated without incident when updating, and even when moving to new h/w. But the monoculture is wide spread, and continues to inhibit computer innovation outside of what will benefit the mothership...
johnea 1y ago
Really only as a matter of scale. The main vendor locking practice of M$, has been to cut deals w/ h/w makers to preinstall windoze on their new computers. This caused many many more people to face childhood indoctrination into windoze than into macOS. Tangentially, over many years apple was a less malicious company than M$, but that advantage has waned in recent years.

pndy 1y ago

> It's like the indoctrination of any religous cult Heh; sister in grade school for her computer class was given a pamphlet where she and her classmates could learn how to become web surfers with IE, how to write a blog with WL Writer and how cool is SkyDrive for saving your files.

userbinator 1y ago

I was in favour of Windows until it reached a peak and then rapid decline. MS was nowhere near as hostile towards its users in the past than it is now.