> None of the decision-makers seem to have the sense or incentive to say "no" to anything. How could you know that? Not all the 'no's show up as a proposal. Th

> None of the decision-makers seem to have the sense or incentive to say "no" to anything. How could you know that? Not all the 'no's show up as a proposal. The proposal template also has an "Impact on ABI" section which you can use to guide your "can I ignore it"-sense. > It sure feels like Swift governance is broken. What is the actual problem though? Not enough features that you would use? But I don't see how this is a governance problem Java governance: slow at times but mostly sane. C++ governance: I won't even open this can of worms. Swift governance according to you: too many features I will ignore.