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To me, ignoring the courts means impeachment and conviction. But the US Gov is full of cowards who are only there to extort money from their campaign donors.

by jmclnx 1y ago

philosopher1234 1y ago
Are we sure they’re not giving the donors exactly what they want?
- krapp 1y ago
  They are. And that should be a bigger problem to more Americans than it seems to be.
lotsofpulp 1y ago
It’s kind of tough when you see 70M of your countrymen vote for a traitor and another 70M implicitly allowing it by not voting. He proved he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and get away with it, so that someone could be whatever government employee tries to go after him (already evidenced using the purse strings and lawyers of the government rather than a bullet). And congressional reps have seen others lose elections for going after Trump. The root problem is the voters, and that’s a tough one to fix.
- TOGoS 1y ago
  The controlled opposition party makes dang sure that the only other option in major elections is "more of the same". (i.e. Democrats generally fail to clean up whatever mess the last Republican administration made, continue funneling money to Israel, yaddah yaddah, and don't to a whole lot to help the working class.) A lot of people are completely fed up with "more of the same", so they voted for the clown or didn't bother to show up. Don't blame the voters when they were never given a real choice.
  - tough 1y ago
    Divide et impera. There's no two parties.
  - chrchr 1y ago
    "More of the same" would have been infinitely preferable.
    - TOGoS 1y ago
      Agreed. I even voted for the fall to last a bit longer, but instead we got ground.
- sillystuff 1y ago
  > 70M implicitly allowing it by not voting. > The root problem is the voters The root problem is that we do not have an actual opposition party. The so-called Democrats are a right-wing, corporate/oligarch controlled party that engages in activities like enabling genocide. The Republicans are a right-wing, corporate/oligarch controlled party that engages in activities like enabling genocide. I hope the so-called Democratic party completely implodes so we can, possibly, get a left-of-center party that will actually do things that the so-called Democrats only provide lip-service to, and that, only when the so-called Democrats are guaranteed to be unable to enact such legislation due to not having majorities needed. I'd prefer that people withholding their votes from either lesser or greater evil right-wing corporate/oligarch, genocidal monster parties would instead vote 3rd party/independent, but I would not fault anyone for not voting for the so-called Democrats or Republicans. As to blame for the current situation, remember, it was the so-called Democrats who did everything they could to make Trump the Republican presidential candidate, as they thought they would have a better chance against him with their extremely unpopular candidate, Clinton. And, that the so-called Democrats would rather lose elections than allow a non-corporate/oligarch controlled genocidal monster to be elected-- see how they treated Sanders. * 'so-called' Democrats because they repeatedly engage in voter suppression during primaries to ensure their chosen right-wing pro-corporate/oligarch candidate will win. And, they repeatedly sue to remove from state ballots any candidates running on the left whether Greens, Peace and Freedom, or independent. In the last election, the Greens spent half of their campaign funds fighting these lawsuits so they could maintain ballot access. It was also the so-called Democrats with the Republicans who barred access to presidential debates of candidates who would challenge their right-wing, pro-corporate/oligarch, genocidal positions.
- lawn 1y ago
  > The root problem is the voters, and that’s a tough one to fix. I'll add that the system itself is also very broken. A better system would give you more than two realistic choices in an election and it wouldn't give all power to one side.
malcolmgreaves 1y ago
Republicans are cowards. It’s not the US government. Democrats would impeach. They did already twice.
- tremon 1y ago
  Republicans do not have a monopoly on cowardice. To take a recent example from memory, Chuck Schumer is equally spineless, and people closer to US politics can probably name more compromised democrats.

To me, ignoring the courts means impeachment and conviction. But the US Gov is full of cowards who are only there to extort money from their campaign donors.

by jmclnx 1y ago

To me, ignoring the courts means impeachment and conviction. But the US Gov is full of cowards who are only there to extort money from their campaign donors.

philosopher1234 1y ago

Are we sure they’re not giving the donors exactly what they want?

krapp 1y ago
They are. And that should be a bigger problem to more Americans than it seems to be.

lotsofpulp 1y ago

It’s kind of tough when you see 70M of your countrymen vote for a traitor and another 70M implicitly allowing it by not voting. He proved he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and get away with it, so that someone could be whatever government employee tries to go after him (already evidenced using the purse strings and lawyers of the government rather than a bullet). And congressional reps have seen others lose elections for going after Trump. The root problem is the voters, and that’s a tough one to fix.

TOGoS 1y ago
The controlled opposition party makes dang sure that the only other option in major elections is "more of the same". (i.e. Democrats generally fail to clean up whatever mess the last Republican administration made, continue funneling money to Israel, yaddah yaddah, and don't to a whole lot to help the working class.) A lot of people are completely fed up with "more of the same", so they voted for the clown or didn't bother to show up. Don't blame the voters when they were never given a real choice.
- tough 1y ago
  Divide et impera. There's no two parties.
- chrchr 1y ago
  "More of the same" would have been infinitely preferable.
  - TOGoS 1y ago
    Agreed. I even voted for the fall to last a bit longer, but instead we got ground.
sillystuff 1y ago
> 70M implicitly allowing it by not voting. > The root problem is the voters The root problem is that we do not have an actual opposition party. The so-called Democrats are a right-wing, corporate/oligarch controlled party that engages in activities like enabling genocide. The Republicans are a right-wing, corporate/oligarch controlled party that engages in activities like enabling genocide. I hope the so-called Democratic party completely implodes so we can, possibly, get a left-of-center party that will actually do things that the so-called Democrats only provide lip-service to, and that, only when the so-called Democrats are guaranteed to be unable to enact such legislation due to not having majorities needed. I'd prefer that people withholding their votes from either lesser or greater evil right-wing corporate/oligarch, genocidal monster parties would instead vote 3rd party/independent, but I would not fault anyone for not voting for the so-called Democrats or Republicans. As to blame for the current situation, remember, it was the so-called Democrats who did everything they could to make Trump the Republican presidential candidate, as they thought they would have a better chance against him with their extremely unpopular candidate, Clinton. And, that the so-called Democrats would rather lose elections than allow a non-corporate/oligarch controlled genocidal monster to be elected-- see how they treated Sanders. * 'so-called' Democrats because they repeatedly engage in voter suppression during primaries to ensure their chosen right-wing pro-corporate/oligarch candidate will win. And, they repeatedly sue to remove from state ballots any candidates running on the left whether Greens, Peace and Freedom, or independent. In the last election, the Greens spent half of their campaign funds fighting these lawsuits so they could maintain ballot access. It was also the so-called Democrats with the Republicans who barred access to presidential debates of candidates who would challenge their right-wing, pro-corporate/oligarch, genocidal positions.
lawn 1y ago
> The root problem is the voters, and that’s a tough one to fix. I'll add that the system itself is also very broken. A better system would give you more than two realistic choices in an election and it wouldn't give all power to one side.

malcolmgreaves 1y ago

Republicans are cowards. It’s not the US government. Democrats would impeach. They did already twice.

tremon 1y ago
Republicans do not have a monopoly on cowardice. To take a recent example from memory, Chuck Schumer is equally spineless, and people closer to US politics can probably name more compromised democrats.